[#285488] Zed Shaw - Ruby has dodged a bullet — Chuck Remes <cremes.devlist@...>

Much like watching a car accident in slow motion, I could scarcely

96 messages 2008/01/01

[#285678] Windows Compilation Madness — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...>

No point in keeping this discussion in the Zed thread...

24 messages 2008/01/02

[#285742] change the symbol in an interpolated string value? — scooterm@...

PROBLEM:

11 messages 2008/01/03

[#285784] Ruby install on Kubuntu Linux - why so spread out — Tom Cloyd <tc@...>

I've migrated from WinXP in recent days, and I'm having trouble getting

19 messages 2008/01/03
[#285786] Re: Ruby install on Kubuntu Linux - why so spread out — Casimir <pikEISPAMMMseli@...> 2008/01/03

Tom Cloyd kirjoitti:

[#285792] Re: Ruby install on Kubuntu Linux - why so spread out — Peter Hickman <peter@...> 2008/01/03

Casimir I'm going to have to call you on this. As you may have just

[#285838] "wrong number of arguments" What? I must be thick or somethi — ole __ <oliver.saunders@...>

class PermutationIterator

10 messages 2008/01/03

[#285873] Time.gm(1969) chokes on Windows — Tim Ferrell <s0nspark@...>

18 messages 2008/01/03

[#285910] Get your hands dirty: Help bootstrap Ruby on Windows. — Luis Lavena <luislavena@...>

This was asked, and asked, and asked too many times, so here we go.

20 messages 2008/01/03

[#285951] Finding if an array contains a data type — Sam Phoneix <dominicjefferies@...>

Say I wanted to see if an array contained a number or not. Would I use

11 messages 2008/01/04

[#285981] How to put a Ruby website online without rails — Softmind Technology <softmindtechnology@...>

Hi,

28 messages 2008/01/04
[#286230] Re: How to put a Ruby website online without rails — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/01/05

Giles Bowkett wrote:

[#286252] Re: How to put a Ruby website online without rails — yudi <yudi.xue@...> 2008/01/05

Ramaze looks good, gotta take a look. Thanks :-)

[#286449] Re: How to put a Ruby website online without rails — James Dinkel <jdinkel@...> 2008/01/07

Here is a forum post that tells you how to embed ruby script into

[#285988] problem with sockets — ian@...

Hi

13 messages 2008/01/04

[#286012] Studying Blackjack (#151) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

42 messages 2008/01/04

[#286056] Re: zed shaw zed shaw zed shaw — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...>

On Jan 4, 2008 11:52 AM, Jeremy McAnally <jeremymcanally@gmail.com> wrote:

16 messages 2008/01/04

[#286077] DBI doesn't seem to install correctly on CentOS — Xeno Campanoli <xcampanoli@...>

I tried installing with the old tarfile sequence using setup.rb, as I

14 messages 2008/01/04
[#286079] Re: DBI doesn't seem to install correctly on CentOS — Joshua Schairbaum <joshua.schairbaum@...> 2008/01/04

Try this to use DBI with MySQL:

[#286120] Best Ruby book for experienced programmer — Kamil Chmielewski <kamilski81@...>

Hello,

19 messages 2008/01/04

[#286221] Vintage 0.0.1 - The super slim, micro web framework based on the idea of the old Merb — "Jeremy McAnally" <jeremymcanally@...>

Vintage is a very small web framework based on the original idea of

23 messages 2008/01/05
[#286346] Re: [ANN] Vintage 0.0.1 - The super slim, micro web framework based on the idea of the old Merb — "ara.t.howard" <ara.t.howard@...> 2008/01/06

[#286273] Marshal Pipe — "Carlos J. Hernandez" <carlosjhr64@...>

I've just re-discovered pipes.

16 messages 2008/01/05
[#286515] Re: Marshal Pipe — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2008/01/07

On Jan 5, 2008, at 15:37 PM, Carlos J. Hernandez wrote:

[#286374] DateTime new_offset unexpected results — Greg Go <plant@...>

Hello, everybody:

13 messages 2008/01/06
[#286484] Re: DateTime new_offset unexpected results — "Todd Benson" <caduceass@...> 2008/01/07

On Jan 6, 2008 2:04 PM, Greg Go <plant@ultraspace.com> wrote:

[#286375] Ruby's Kernel::exec (and system and %x) — JJ <jjnoakes@...>

I was reading about Kernel::exec (and the related Kernel::system

29 messages 2008/01/06

[#286473] Where do I put the ".to_f" ? — Peter Bailey <pbailey@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2008/01/07

[#286493] Bacon 0.9, a small RSpec clone — Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@...>

Hello,

13 messages 2008/01/07

[#286508] Embedding 1.9 — Dave Thomas <dave@...>

Folks:

18 messages 2008/01/07

[#286558] Thin 0.5.1 LOLCAT released — Marc-andre Marc <macournoyer@...>

Hey all,

13 messages 2008/01/08

[#286656] JRuby 1.1 RC 1 Released — Thomas Enebo <Thomas.Enebo@...>

The JRuby community is pleased to announce the release of JRuby 1.1 RC 1

19 messages 2008/01/08
[#286710] Re: [ANN] JRuby 1.1 RC 1 Released — "Sander Land" <sander.land@...> 2008/01/08

With all the blog posts about JRuby being posted, I thought I would

[#286696] dow ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Jochen Hayek <jochen+ruby-forum@...>

Why is ruby's core class Time acting like this:

21 messages 2008/01/08
[#286701] Re: dow ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/01/08

Jochen Hayek wrote:

[#286702] Re: dow ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/01/08

Suraj Kurapati wrote:

[#286717] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Jochen Hayek <jochen+ruby-forum@...> 2008/01/09

Suraj Kurapati wrote:

[#287161] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/01/12

Jochen Hayek wrote:

[#287217] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Jochen Hayek <jochen+ruby-forum@...> 2008/01/12

Pls let me assure you in the beginning of this note,

[#287219] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Suraj Kurapati <snk@...> 2008/01/12

Jochen Hayek wrote:

[#287344] Re: does ruby's strftime not attempt POSIX-compliance? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/01/14

Hi,

[#286742] why does this code leak? — ara howard <ara.t.howard@...>

cfp2:~ > cat a.rb

35 messages 2008/01/09
[#286991] Re: why does this code leak? — "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Rados=B3aw_Bu=B3at?=" <radek.bulat@...> 2008/01/10

On Jan 10, 2008 10:15 PM, Robert Dober <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

[#287063] Here Document syntax is stringent - trailing blank — Todd Burch <promos@...>

text = <<EOD

12 messages 2008/01/11

[#287067] Need command line to run a file 4 times — jackster the jackle <contact@...>

Hi Ruby Forum...

13 messages 2008/01/11
[#287074] Re: Need command line to run a file 4 times — Xavier Noria <fxn@...> 2008/01/11

On Jan 11, 2008, at 2:47 PM, jackster the jackle wrote:

[#287080] Counting the files in a directory.... — "Kyle Schmitt" <kyleaschmitt@...>

I'm writing some scripts to help manage a mail scanner used at my

18 messages 2008/01/11

[#287095] IRB Keyboard Input Issues — Oliver Saunders <oliver.saunders@...>

When I press the up arrow in IRB to access history I see this:

13 messages 2008/01/11

[#287188] Stream Parsing with REXML — Marc Hoeppner <marc.hoeppner@...>

Hi (again, sort of) :)

13 messages 2008/01/12

[#287190] Callable class with block — blondinet <jblondinet@...>

Hi everyone,

12 messages 2008/01/12

[#287199] Re: gem build documentation for new gems? — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>

On Jan 12, 2008, at 07:57 AM, Giles Bowkett wrote:

11 messages 2008/01/12

[#287226] Ruby from source on Leopard excruciatingly slow internet talk — "Chris Shea" <chris@...>

Just a couple of days ago I "upgraded" from Tiger to Leopard, and the

19 messages 2008/01/13

[#287282] regualr expression (need help) — Heinrich Piard <linux@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2008/01/13

[#287368] regular expression — Johnathan Smith <stu_09@...>

hey

15 messages 2008/01/14
[#287371] Re: regular expression — "Robert Klemme" <shortcutter@...> 2008/01/14

2008/1/14, Johnathan Smith <stu_09@hotmail.com>:

[#287414] any tricks to speed up ruby? — Roger Pack <rogerpack2005@...>

31 messages 2008/01/14
[#287423] Re: any tricks to speed up ruby? — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2008/01/14

Roger Pack wrote:

[#287583] Re: any tricks to speed up ruby? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2008/01/16

James Britt wrote:

[#287525] Overridding A Method Via A Mixin — Andrew Stewart <boss@...>

Hi Everyone,

17 messages 2008/01/15
[#287526] Re: Overridding A Method Via A Mixin — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/01/15

On 15.01.2008 18:32, Andrew Stewart wrote:

[#287666] ruby annoyances ... mine is line continuation, what's yours? — "scooterm@..." <scooterm@...>

Just thinking how really smart Ruby is in most areas makes it all the

11 messages 2008/01/16

[#287720] FXRuby or Shoes? — Doug Livesey <biot023@...>

Sorry I've posted this in the generic Ruby thread, but I wanted as

14 messages 2008/01/17

[#287735] LDAP Server not connected error — Varun Goel <varun.rajeshkumar@...>

hi all i made authentication function like this

12 messages 2008/01/17
[#287752] Re: LDAP Server not connected error — "Matt Todd" <chiology@...> 2008/01/17

Pluck out the actual LDAP code into IRB and see if it works. I've not

[#287757] Ruby syntax in "respond_to do |format| line -- can clarify? — Joshua Beall <jbeall.ruby@...>

Hi All,

12 messages 2008/01/17

[#287819] passing method references in python & ruby — "rpardee@..." <rpardee@...>

Hey all,

21 messages 2008/01/18
[#287897] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — "rpardee@..." <rpardee@...> 2008/01/18

On Jan 17, 8:12 pm, Justin Collins <justincoll...@ucla.edu> wrote:

[#287914] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Rados=B3aw_Bu=B3at?=" <radek.bulat@...> 2008/01/18

In python when you use method name without parenthesises you get

[#287917] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — Justin Collins <justincollins@...> 2008/01/18

Rados梶w Buウat wrote:

[#287989] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2008/01/19

On 18.01.2008 20:11, Justin Collins wrote:

[#288034] Re: passing method references in python & ruby — Justin Collins <justincollins@...> 2008/01/19

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#287869] Longest Repeated Substring (#153) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

62 messages 2008/01/18
[#287931] Re: Longest Repeated Substring (#153) — yermej <yermej@...> 2008/01/18

On Jan 18, 2:38 pm, Ken Bloom <kbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#287932] Re: Longest Repeated Substring (#153) — "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Rados=B3aw_Bu=B3at?=" <radek.bulat@...> 2008/01/18

On Jan 18, 2008 10:00 PM, yermej <yermej@gmail.com> wrote:

[#287895] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — Marc-AndrCournoyer <macournoyer@...>

Hey all,

15 messages 2008/01/18
[#287962] Re: [ANN] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — "s.ross" <cwdinfo@...> 2008/01/19

This has been working so well on my Mac dev machine, I built it out on

[#287973] Re: [ANN] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...> 2008/01/19

[#287984] Re: [ANN] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — "s.ross" <cwdinfo@...> 2008/01/19

Got it up and running ... for a while. It's running as root/root and

[#287999] Re: [ANN] Thin 0.5.3 Purple Yogurt release — Marc-AndrCournoyer <macournoyer@...> 2008/01/19

Thin runs in a single thread, no need for a mutex there.

[#287953] Looking for code to determine length of audio files — "Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@...>

I'm working on a project which has the requirement to automatically

11 messages 2008/01/19

[#287971] Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...>

Hello everyone,

22 messages 2008/01/19
[#287976] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — "Hassan Schroeder" <hassan.schroeder@...> 2008/01/19

On Jan 18, 2008 8:37 PM, Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@verizon.net> wrote:

[#287978] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...> 2008/01/19

She can't find the run file.

[#287979] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — "Hassan Schroeder" <hassan.schroeder@...> 2008/01/19

On Jan 18, 2008 9:25 PM, Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@verizon.net> wrote:

[#287980] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...> 2008/01/19

Hassan Schroeder wrote:

[#287985] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — "s.ross" <cwdinfo@...> 2008/01/19

[#288000] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...> 2008/01/19

Okay, we've got programs running!

[#288008] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — "Windham, Kristopher R." <kriswindham@...> 2008/01/19

not sure what you are trying to do there..

[#288009] Re: Ruby with Mac OS X — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...> 2008/01/19

Well, I'm using it with arrays, here's a clip of the code that I'm

[#288133] Announcing Revactor: an Actor model implementation for Ruby 1.9 — "Tony Arcieri" <tony@...>

I'm pleased to announce the initial public availability of Revactor, an

25 messages 2008/01/21

[#288258] why must I initialize this variable? — matt@... (matt neuburg)

Here's a simple variable initialization / scope question. In the

14 messages 2008/01/22

[#288290] Determine where a method is being called from? — Ben Johnson <bjohnson@...>

Is it possible to determine if a public instance method is being called

11 messages 2008/01/22

[#288303] How to improve this code? — Jair Rillo Junior <jrjuniorsp@...>

Hi guys,

16 messages 2008/01/23

[#288308] Learning to build a MUD — Sean Dolbec <helbuns@...>

13 messages 2008/01/23

[#288348] Parsing HTML / following links etc — Dan Cuddeford <dancudds@...>

Hello all,

11 messages 2008/01/23

[#288391] Scripts run using load in "for" loop run out of order — Fa Sidd <siddiqifh@...>

Hi

13 messages 2008/01/23

[#288626] Making Change (#154) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

106 messages 2008/01/25
[#288653] Re: [QUIZ] Making Change (#154) — Dominik Honnef <dominikho@...> 2008/01/25

On [Sat, 26.01.2008 00:50], Ruby Quiz wrote:

[#288656] Re: [QUIZ] Making Change (#154) — "Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣" <jgabrielygalan@...> 2008/01/25

On Jan 25, 2008 9:53 PM, Dominik Honnef <dominikho@gmx.net> wrote:

[#288658] Re: [QUIZ] Making Change (#154) — James Gray <james@...> 2008/01/25

On Jan 25, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Jes俍 Gabriel y Gal疣 wrote:

[#288692] regular expression negate a word (not character) — Summercool <Summercoolness@...>

24 messages 2008/01/26

[#288773] Extracting Data from a Webpage — Tj Superfly <nonstickglue@...>

Hello everyone.

17 messages 2008/01/27

[#288847] Treetop parser (or PEG in general?) questions — Phrogz <phrogz@...>

I've been looking for something like treetop for a while now. Very

19 messages 2008/01/28

[#288916] Final Two Quizzes — James Gray <james@...>

As most of you know, we have two Ruby Quiz problems left (http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/6f46393932c22e49

32 messages 2008/01/28
[#288978] Re: Final Two Quizzes — fedzor <fedzor@...> 2008/01/28

[#288980] Re: Final Two Quizzes — James Gray <james@...> 2008/01/28

On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:38 PM, fedzor wrote:

[#289016] Re: Final Two Quizzes — fedzor <fedzor@...> 2008/01/29

[#289026] Re: Final Two Quizzes — James Gray <james@...> 2008/01/29

On Jan 29, 2008, at 6:33 AM, fedzor wrote:

[#289048] Re: Final Two Quizzes — "Thomas Wieczorek" <wieczo.yo@...> 2008/01/29

Thank you for the many quizzes. I came to Ruby through a blog entry

[#289051] Re: Final Two Quizzes — James Gray <james@...> 2008/01/29

On Jan 29, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Thomas Wieczorek wrote:

[#289057] Re: Final Two Quizzes — Dominik Honnef <dominikho@...> 2008/01/29

On [Wed, 30.01.2008 06:34], James Gray wrote:

[#288973] Treetop Email Parser — Phrogz <phrogz@...>

(I would post this to the treetop mailing list...except there doesn't

14 messages 2008/01/28

[#289018] Proposal/RFQ: Hash#values/keys with block — "Dirk Traulsen" <dirk.traulsen@...>

Hi!

10 messages 2008/01/29

[#289046] newbie file write problem — Lars Zeb <larzeb@...>

This is my first attempt at ruby. I've written a class (SicCode) which

15 messages 2008/01/29

[#289060] For Loop question — Mark Mr <pimea.mark@...>

ok basically i cant quite figure out how to do a for loop i want in

13 messages 2008/01/29

[#289196] counting the number of repititions in an array — Adam Akhtar <adamtemporary@...>

Hi if i want to count the number of times values are repeated in an

10 messages 2008/01/30

[#289206] Ruby Puzzle Challenge — Wyatt Greene <greenewm@...>

Write a Ruby program that prints out the numbers 1 to 100, one number

14 messages 2008/01/30

[#289210] Learn how to program — "Regnum@... Regnum@..." <regnum@...>

Hi!, i want to learn how to program.Is ruby a good option?. Thanks.

30 messages 2008/01/30
[#289351] Re: Learn how to program — longint <michael.mello@...> 2008/01/31

On Jan 30, 4:30m, "Reg...@argentina.com Reg...@argentina.com"

[#289401] Re: Learn how to program — "Michael Bevilacqua-Linn" <michael.bevilacqualinn@...> 2008/02/01

IMHO,

[#289286] can ik make this more beautifull? — Remco Hh <remco@...>

nowadays i try to improve my coding style to produce nicer and beter

17 messages 2008/01/31

[#289355] Gedankenexperiment on method duck type safety — Tim Connor <timocratic@...>

*braces for the flames to follow*

13 messages 2008/01/31

[#289364] GUI for a newbie — Matthew Borgeson <hibridmatthias@...>

Hello All-

28 messages 2008/01/31

[#289375] how do you install a local gem? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2008/01/31
[#289378] Re: how do you install a local gem? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2008/01/31

Alle Thursday 31 January 2008, 7stud -- ha scritto:

[#289386] Re: how do you install a local gem? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/01/31

Stefano Crocco wrote:

[#289388] Re: how do you install a local gem? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2008/01/31

Alle Thursday 31 January 2008, 7stud -- ha scritto:

[#289398] Re: how do you install a local gem? — 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@...> 2008/02/01

Stefano Crocco wrote:

Re: Zed Shaw - Ruby has dodged a bullet

From: Luis Lavena <luislavena@...>
Date: 2008-01-02 04:59:59 UTC
List: ruby-talk #285615
On 2 ene, 01:48, Sam Smoot <ssm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 1, 7:46 pm, Luis Lavena <luislav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > In my case I don't hate but really piss me off that every time I try
> > to get feedback on proper support for Windows (which I professionally
> > use), get silly answers like "hey, move to a real OS".
>

Keeping the OT ;-)

> Off Topic: I really do think OCI's use of VC6 is a big factor in this.
> Not only do I have to buy VMWare, a copy of Windows, and go through
> *hours* of inconvenience, but I have to dig up some compiler that's no
> longer offered or supported when MS offers free alternatives for
> download (VCExpress)... It's really frustrating.

The choice of VC6 wasn't mine, nor original from Curt Hibbs or Andy
Hunt for what matters.

I always bring this up, since there is some confusion on the
fundaments of Ruby being compiled with VC6:

- Curt was using VC2003 (7.1) back in 2006, the pain to maintain not
just Ruby but all the extensions compiled for it was overkill

- There has been always an "official", naked/barebone build of Ruby
for Windows made by Nobu at garbagecollect. Curt and the others at One-
Click Installer just fill the gap which was simpler at that time.

- Discussion about VC2005, MinGW or whatever compile you name always
raise in this list or ruby-core, but noone really take big steps on
this, besides some contributions from Austin Ziegler to allow ruby be
built with VC8, which is radically different beast compared to VC6.

- VC8 bring just a big nightware to the whole thing, even is
"free" (as microsoft states it), you require build everything with it,
which translate to a hell of project maintainance.

- Build with MinGW also requires proper testing, which I've tried to
get some assistance on this list and also on ruby-core about serious
issues (blockers) without success too (hey, maybe I need to learn
english, since I think noone understand what I write).

> Not directed at you of course Luis. Appreciate your hard work at bridging the gap. :-)

I know you don't. I even had my differences with other developers on
this list, ruby-core or #ruby-lang, and sent my apologizes when
needed.

You must thank Zed, Curt, Nobu and Austing, without them and their
comments I wouldn't be so active, lack of feedback is negative, more
when you're working in your free time.

I must accept the fact I'm not a easy person to deal with, and that
many "companies" will not like my attitude for a "team work".

On a On-Topic thing, if you remove the cursing and bad words from
Zed's lengthy post, you will find a deep, not-so-far-from-truth
reality. Now replace 'Rails' with J2EE, dotNet or even SAP, and you
will find that this new virus is infecting the community is nothing
new, is a old decease that existed way before Ruby became "mainstream"
due Rails. I can call it a 'suck-energy-from-community' decease.

Anyway, I cannot comment on the personal relations or the
personalities Zed mention in his post, since I haven't dealt with them
and cannot discuss these personal issues in such open way like Zed
did. But again, that is Zed's POV and his ideas, agree or not with
them.

For what matters, Zed was the only developer back in 2006 (or even
2007) I've met that from day zero shown openness and desire to get
Mongrel working on Windows. Hey, he even setup a Windows box and
installed FreeBASIC just to build mongrel_service there!

Some folks may consider my comments useless since I can be Zed's
friend. I hope he consider me that way, since I respect him as human
being and his work. All this time we've chat, mailed or IM we talk and
share ideas with respect.

Hope other users don't follow the main line of this thread and start
doing the first thing they critize from Zed.

Everybody have a nice week!

Regards,

Luis Lavena

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