From: Brian Marick Date: 2007-12-09T09:29:06+09:00 Subject: Re: ruby certification On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:30 PM, cruiserdan wrote: > The requirements for various bits of fancy paper is a fact of life. > Even well-intentioned technically proficient managers may find they > are required for their firm's due diligence process. > > Thus, our (the Ruby community) goal should IMHO be to identify one or > more good certs and support them. When someone comes in asking which > cert is the best, that is a great opportunity for us to influence the > situation. When I was on the Agile Alliance board, I wrote a position statement for it on certification. The key sentence is "employers should have confidence *only* in certifications that are skill-based and difficult to achieve." Laurent Bossavit and I are (learning Rails by) working on a website to try and establish the kind of "web of trust" that allows people to vouch for each other. We're just barely at a minimally useful deployment (it's not even running on Mongrel yet), but whattheheck: If we can get a non-laughable number of people certifying each other, we'll be ready to revamp the site to make it appealing for people looking to hire other people. ----- Brian Marick, independent consultant Mostly on agile methods with a testing slant www.exampler.com, www.exampler.com/blog, twitter.com/marick ----- Brian Marick, independent consultant Mostly on agile methods with a testing slant www.exampler.com, www.exampler.com/blog, twitter.com/marick