From: Diego Suarez <diego.suargarcia@...>
Date: 2007-10-25T08:16:24+09:00
Subject: Re: IronRuby...will it be like J++?

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On 10/24/07, John Lam (DLR) <jflam@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> Thufir:
>
> > >> I think the biggest risk to IronRuby is the CLR, not the IronRuby
> > >> implementation itself. As noted, that's in a reasonably open
> > license.
> > >
> > > I'm interested in why you think that the CLR is a risk? We've
> > > standardized CLR via the CLI and there is an open-source
> > implementation
> > > of the CLR in Mono. DLR / IronRuby should just run on Mono in binary
> > > form.
> >
> > Very cool to hear from someone at Microsoft.  My concern, on reading
> > the
> > above, is that Mono apps work great when going from Microsoft to Linux,
> > but not all Mono apps work great when going from Linux to Microsoft.
> >
> > In and of itself, that's a hassle.  However, the long term effect would
> > be detrimental for Ruby on Linux, which would be viewed as a backwater.
>
> Are you talking about library compatibility or are there runtime
> compatibility issues? If the latter, this would seem to be something that=
 is
> either:
>
> a) a bug in one of our implementations vs. the CLI spec or
> b) something unclear in the CLI spec
>
> Both a) and b) have happened and we've been able to resolve those issues
> with the Mono team. There's also the other issue where their implementati=
on
> tends to lag behind the latest versions of the CLR / C# as well, but that=
's
> more of a resourcing problem rather than a technical one (I'm sure they
> could use more help on their project too!)
>
> -John
>
> Hi John, I was asking myself how much is Microsoft betting on dynamic
languages like Ruby, Python et al. I mean, they look interested because the=
y
're hiring people, but IronRuby (if I'm not wrong) is in pre-alpha and has =
a
very small team...I'm sure Microsoft is not giving the Iron(.*) projects th=
e
importance they deserve.

I heard that in Silverlight 1.1 IronRuby is going to be one of the
alternatives to use, but I'm a bit puzzled, because SilverLight seems to
advance much faster than IronRuby...

Anyway, keep up the good work.

Regards,
Diego Su=E1rez.

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