From: Victor Reyes <victor.reyes@...>
Date: 2007-10-24T08:55:59+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby Certification Test

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My experience with certification is that they do not worth the paper where
they are printed.
Although I hold several certifications, they really do not testify of the
actual knowledge of the holder.
I know dozens of people with multiple certifications (CCNA, CCNP, AIX,
Solaris, Linux, Java. mierda) and they do not know where to even start
solving a problem in the field where they hold their certification. Matter
of fact, one of my best friends passed a Unix certification without ever
login in to the OS.
I believe it is more reliable to give someone a test or an in-depth
interview than asking for a certification.
But, Ruby will follow the rest, after all this is a democracy, isn't it?

Victor

PS: Joke or no joke, Colombia is not a jungle. Although people like Jason
would like the world to believe just that!


On 10/23/07, David A. Black <dblack@rubypal.com> wrote:
>
> Hi --
>
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Pat Maddox wrote:
>
> > On 10/22/07, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> In the Japanese page of Ruby Association, at http://www.ruby-assn.org/
> >> releases/2007091901.html.ja
> >> There is an announcement about the Ruby Programming Language
> >> Certification Test.
> >> It is available this starting this October 27th in Japanese in Matsue
> >> city in Shimane prefecture, Japan.
> >> The English version of the test will be available online in February
> >> of 2008.
> >>
> >> The English page of Ruby Association has not yet been updated to
> >> reflect this information, but I believe many would be happy to hear
> >> about it!
> >>
> >> For more information,
> >> contact Mr. Shugo Maeda at:
> >> press@ruby-assn.org
> >>
> >> I for one, hope we can establish a testing location in Austin!
> >>
> >> Note:
> >> Although the demand for certifications varies with different
> >> technologies and different organizations and even cultures,
> >> in Japan there is generally a certification process for just about
> >> everything you can imagine. Holding even the most obscure but
> >> relevant certification is well-regarded in Japan as reflecting your
> >> dedication to the subject matter.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > There's 0 chance that I'd get a Ruby certification, and I'd laugh at
> > any potential employer who asked me about it.
>
> I would say that about any unofficial certification, but if Matz and
> Shugo are behind it, it's probably reasonable to give it a bit more
> weight or at least a second look.
>
>
> David
>
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