From: Simon Schuster <significants@...>
Date: 2007-10-23T18:50:23+09:00
Subject: Re: pop/push, shift/unshift

*yawn* oh, what? people have been using these terms for a long time?
oh wow, yeah, clearly important.

*ahem* but what about the idea that it's four points of inter-related
methods? I guess that's not as important as tradition...

*ahem*

.... I mean, tradition and mathematics, they're key. just look at
edison and tesla. :D

On 10/22/07, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 23.10.2007 05:53, Simon Schuster wrote:
> > the inconsistency in naming bothers me. :P I would imagine that it
> > comes from push/pop being older, and shift/unshift being added later
> > (probably I would guess that both of these are pre-ruby programming
> > ideas. I know I've seen push/pop before.)
> >
> > I would like to see either push/pop changed to be
> > something/unsomething, or shift/unshift changed to be um, visualish
> > ideas of what's going on (or whatever push/pop is.) my preference
> > would be push/pop changed to something/unsomething. or maybe
> > front_add, front_del, back_add, back_del.
> >
> > just trying to get a gut-grip on these four array processes, and I'm
> > pushing and popping and shifting and unshifting left and right (and
> > back and forth?) and it's taking a surprising amount of time to "grok"
> > them. does anyone think this is a naming convention that could benefit
> > with some change, or am I just being strange?
>
> I think you just should get used to the terminology.  Whatever naming is
> choosen it is artificial - you can always argue about whether the end
> (highest index) or the beginning (lowest index) of the Array is the top
> or bottom of the stack etc.  So not changing is definitively the better
> choice - just think about all the confusion created by all those people
> who use this regularly.  Also keep in mind that changing these would
> break a hell lot of code.
>
> Why don't you just create yourself a simple test script that uses all of
> those methods and invoke it whenever you need to remind yourself of the
> proper wording?
>
> Kind regards
>
>         robert
>
>