From: James Britt <james.britt@...>
Date: 2007-10-22T23:26:23+09:00
Subject: Re: IronRuby...will it be like J++?

Michael T. Richter wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-22-10 at 20:00 +0900, Clifford Heath wrote:
> 
>> Michael T. Richter wrote:
>>> Yeah.  Because that worked really well for them with Java.
>> It did on the desktop, where their installed base and revenue
>> stream is.
> 
> 
> 
> What worked better for them there is that Java still basically sucks for
> full-fledged applications even after all this time.  Every time I fire
> up a Java app I go out, make myself a fresh cup of tea, check on my
> (snail)mail and just basically slack off for a while.  When I get back
> the app *MAY* have started.  Unless that App is Eclipse in which case it
> will likely have crashed.  Failing that I've got a few more minutes of
> waiting before it starts.
> 


A few points:

I've met the core people working on IronRuby and JRuby.  They are good 
people with integrity.  While there are few guarantees in life, and 
especially so in software development, I believe the projects are in 
good hands and are not part of any nefarious scheme to fragment the user 
base.

I've worked with JRuby desktop apps.  Speed is not an issue.  I, too, 
used to dread the JVM start-up time, but it has become a non-issue. 
Better JVMs and faster machines has taken care of that.  YMMV and all that.

Finally, bickering on ruby-talk accomplishes very little.  Writing to 
Sun and Microsoft would be more useful.


-- 
James Britt

"You harmonize; then you customize."
  - Wilson Pickett