From: Felix Windt Date: 2007-10-18T00:45:30+09:00 Subject: Re: recommendations for working with PostgreSQL ------=_NextPart_000_0260_01C81099.5C571230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Perrin [mailto:perrin@apotheon.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:37 AM > To: ruby-talk ML > Subject: Re: recommendations for working with PostgreSQL [...] > I'm not necessarily looking for ORM, though now that I think > about it I > can't help but wonder if every single programmatic interface > between Ruby > and a relational database might qualify in some manner as ORM (since > "everything is an object" in Ruby). [...] I'd argue against that - an ORM would map the entity described by the database to an equivalent object in Ruby (say, an entry in an addressbook). DBI like interfaces do map to objects in Ruby, but those objects represent merely the database row with no knowledge about the entity that row describes. > -- > CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] > W. Somerset Maugham: "The ability to quote is a serviceable > substitute for > wit." > Felix ------=_NextPart_000_0260_01C81099.5C571230 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIII3jCCAmYw ggHPoAMCAQICEFJ3uelO4AJUNG7Np2ieTWkwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA3MDMxMTEzMzk1OVoXDTA4MDMxMDEzMzk1 OVowSjEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEnMCUGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYYZndt YWlsaW5nbGlzdHNAZ21haWwuY29tMIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDoHQNMSMIi 1fb3BhJdz7Byt8PSeaa/Yx0wJ1BzLj7dJZK+8djBP06HvolZ9IYibnGerNg+LnxXT8tyGUZ0vw0Q f3qSYtuGcYfdm44qVOAtV+fex14uBSmSj8i/QOL+710oSQdPGAJE1L+8N1bLvJAxznsF6tpD5GUZ iPRY1HcloQIDAQABozUwMzAjBgNVHREEHDAagRhmd21haWxpbmdsaXN0c0BnbWFpbC5jb20wDAYD VR0TAQH/BAIwADANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFAAOBgQCtXsHSAFBpcohm7/t5Vlak0eySI5c5cghVELhu LyoNMdx+qCyKE4HJoWrr2+id/+YVPfiOaBsxsir3Aeg3DPuCODoafFYErm3OzJV13lRlwKWfrz01 vczScC2VvABk0ZvlQEHA54IJqiV8QoXntlQWaa2NYO3ggalUyaOeNmsk1TCCAy0wggKWoAMCAQIC AQAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwgdExCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUx EjAQBgNVBAcTCUNhcGUgVG93bjEaMBgGA1UEChMRVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcxKDAmBgNVBAsT H0NlcnRpZmljYXRpb24gU2VydmljZXMgRGl2aXNpb24xJDAiBgNVBAMTG1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25h bCBGcmVlbWFpbCBDQTErMCkGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYccGVyc29uYWwtZnJlZW1haWxAdGhhd3RlLmNv bTAeFw05NjAxMDEwMDAwMDBaFw0yMDEyMzEyMzU5NTlaMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UE CBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBDb25z dWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYDVQQD ExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFsLWZy ZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBANRp19SwlGRbcelH 2AxRtupykbCEXn0tDY97Et+FJXUodDpCLGMnn5V7S+9+GYcdhuqj3bnOlmQawhRuRKx85o/oTQ9x H0A4pgCjh3j2+ZSGXq3qwF5269kUo11uenwMpUtVfwYZKX+emibVars4JAhqmMex2qOYkf152+Va xBy5AgMBAAGjEzARMA8GA1UdEwEB/wQFMAMBAf8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQADgYEAx+ySfk749Zal Z2IqpPBNEWDQb41gWGGsJrtSNVwIzzD7qEqWih9iQiOMFw/0umScF6xHKd+dmF7SbGBxXKKs3Hnj 524ARx+1DSjoAp3kmv0T9KbZfLH43F8jJgmRgHPQFBveQ6mDJfLmnC8Vyv6mq4oHdYsM3VGEa+T4 0c53ooEwggM/MIICqKADAgECAgENMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMG A1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBD b25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYD VQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFs LWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDMwNzE3MDAwMDAwWhcNMTMwNzE2MjM1OTU5WjBiMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UE AxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD gY0AMIGJAoGBAMSmPFVzVftOucqZWh5owHUEcJ3f6f+jHuy9zfVb8hp2vX8MOmHyv1HOAdTlUAow 1wJjWiyJFXCO3cnwK4Vaqj9xVsuvPAsH5/EfkTYkKhPPK9Xzgnc9A74r/rsYPge/QIACZNenpruf ZdHFKlSFD0gEf6e20TxhBEAeZBlyYLf7AgMBAAGjgZQwgZEwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgwBgEB/wIBADBD BgNVHR8EPDA6MDigNqA0hjJodHRwOi8vY3JsLnRoYXd0ZS5jb20vVGhhd3RlUGVyc29uYWxGcmVl bWFpbENBLmNybDALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwKQYDVR0RBCIwIKQeMBwxGjAYBgNVBAMTEVByaXZhdGVM YWJlbDItMTM4MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAEiM0VCD6gsuzA2jZqxnD3+vrL7CF6FDlpSdf0wh uPg2H6otnzYvwPQcUCCTcDz9reFhYsPZOhl+hLGZGwDFGguCdJ4lUJRix9sncVcljd2pnDmOjCBP ZV+V2vf3h9bGCE6u9uo05RAaWzVNd+NWIXiC3CEZNd4ksdMdRv9dX2VPMYIC+DCCAvQCAQEwdjBi MQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoG A1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEFJ3uelO4AJUNG7Np2ie TWkwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAdgwGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUx DxcNMDcxMDE3MTU0MDI0WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQURXNNrEkWx4IEoQPUuzdtz9OW4cIwZwYJ KoZIhvcNAQkPMVowWDAKBggqhkiG9w0DBzAOBggqhkiG9w0DAgICAIAwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwICAUAw BwYFKw4DAgcwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwICASgwBwYFKw4DAhowCgYIKoZIhvcNAgUwgYUGCSsGAQQBgjcQ BDF4MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0 ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhBSd7npTuAC VDRuzadonk1pMIGHBgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzF4oHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRo YXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVl bWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhBSd7npTuACVDRuzadonk1pMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIGAvZyhk3Wt tWWV0dlkUCqmff8NaezlOHyad4YzaK/R8wfR4KaMV1/XE/VFEuL33AlksZFYJRSxFMvXcdvlFLkG /m55tsKZACMDJGGLHs4yB83RHGcBu+unHo5An62Ct+tnKE4ZhWWEaoGDfkKMb6xrfgalYz0muBzW ECnBfNUhrMAAAAAAAAA= ------=_NextPart_000_0260_01C81099.5C571230--