From: Robert Klemme Date: 2007-10-05T18:06:40+09:00 Subject: Re: Reference vs. Reference 2007/10/5, Robert Dober : > On 10/5/07, Robert Klemme wrote: > > 2007/10/5, Robert Dober : > > > Not for Java - we can not accept Java in the same league as Smalltalk > > > and Ruby can we ? ;). > > > > Um, where's the problem? Java is a great language and it certainly > > has its uses (helps to pay my bills for example). And don't forget > > that several pieces of Ruby were inspired by Java (at least I believe > > so). > There was a Smiley Robert, Yes, I know I know. But I'm sick of all the Java bashing around and had to voice that at some point. I often get the impression that some dynamic language adopters feel like they are the avantgarde or elite and disregard other tools just because they are not the newest / hottest / whatever. Note, I don't mean you - you just happened to provide the trigger. :-) > however I feel that Smalltalk and Ruby are very much > in contrast to Java. Java is a nice tool but it is not a dynamic > language and it is not > pure OO. This might not be important for many, for me it is. Admittedly it has it's advantages and actually this is one of the reasons I love Ruby - everything is an object - period. There are no exceptions and this is really great. Kind regards robert