From: Robert Dober <robert.dober@...>
Date: 2007-09-30T21:50:53+09:00
Subject: Re: a = Dog.new # a is not a pointer and not a reference?

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On 9/30/07, Michael T. Richter <ttmrichter@gmail.com> wrote:
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>  On Sun, 2007-30-09 at 21:02 +0900, Robert Dober wrote:
>
>  I spoke with Dr. Meyer during his trip to China last year.  One of the
> things we touched upon (naturally) was programming language design.  He is
> not joking when he talks about C++'s reference semantics.  Not in the
> slightest.  Don't mistake his general good cheer and good nature for not
> vociferously hating that language.  [image: ;)]
>
>
>  Just out of curiosity, is this the Dragomir Meyer who wrote "50 pitfalls
> in C++"? (The only book I ever read about C++, but it was worth it's money
> because it made me stay away!)
>
>
> I don't know.  I'm not sure what a "Dragomir" is.  If it's a name, its
> definitely not the guy.  Dr. Meyer is Bertrand Meyer,
>

yup I think that's him, please note that if his parents had called him
Dragomir they would have saved him years of studies, but seriously he seems
to be one on the brilliant side.

an influential French computer science type
>

personne n'est parfait

now living in Zurich if memory serves.  If "Dragomir" is a funky way to say
> "Doctor", then it very well could be.
>

This is indeed a very old joke, now you know it too ;)

Robert

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<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Michael T. Richter</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:ttmrichter@gmail.com">ttmrichter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">



  
  

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On Sun, 2007-30-09 at 21:02 +0900, Robert Dober wrote:
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        <font color="#000000">I spoke with Dr. Meyer during his trip to China last year.&nbsp; One of the things we touched upon (naturally) was programming language design.&nbsp; He is not joking when he talks about C++&#39;s reference semantics.&nbsp; Not in the slightest.&nbsp; Don&#39;t mistake his general good cheer and good nature for not vociferously hating that language.&nbsp; 
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    <font color="#000000">Just out of curiosity, is this the Dragomir Meyer who wrote &quot;50 pitfalls in C++&quot;? (The only book I ever read about C++, but it was worth it&#39;s money because it made me stay away!) </font>
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I don&#39;t know.&nbsp; I&#39;m not sure what a &quot;Dragomir&quot; is.&nbsp; If it&#39;s a name, its definitely not the guy.&nbsp; Dr. Meyer is Bertrand Meyer,</div></blockquote><div><br>yup I think that&#39;s him, please note that if his parents had called him Dragomir they would have saved him years of studies, but seriously he seems to be one on the brilliant side. 
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div> an influential French computer science type</div></blockquote><div><br>personne n&#39;est parfait
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div> now living in Zurich if memory serves.&nbsp; If &quot;Dragomir&quot; is a funky way to say &quot;Doctor&quot;, then it very well could be.&nbsp;
</div></blockquote><div><br>This is indeed a very old joke, now you know it too ;) <br></div></div><br>Robert<br><br>

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