From: Michael Bevilacqua-Linn <michael.bevilacqualinn@...>
Date: 2007-09-29T03:29:34+09:00
Subject: Re: [OT] Confession: I never did ASM

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Programming From The Ground Up - An Introduction to Programming using Linux
Assembly Language is quite good.

But if you're looking to start programming in C, why not just start
programming in C?

I've always liked the O'Reilly Practical C book and, of course, The C
Programming Language (K&R) is a classic and well worth the read.  And I seem
to have lost my copy :-/

MBL

On 9/28/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <znmeb@cesmail.net> wrote:
>
> John Joyce wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 27, 2007, at 11:01 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> >
> >> John Joyce wrote:
> >>> On Sep 27, 2007, at 1:21 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> >>>> julik wrote:
> >>>>> I would love to join the recently started confession fest.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've got a similar problem as Jay, but in a totally different
> domain.
> >>>>> Having started as a script kiddo - what kind of book can introduce
> >>>>> me in
> >>>>> the beautiful but-oh-so-scary world of things like bit shifts,
> number
> >>>>> representations, registers and that 0xF of them all, so that I can
> >>>>> (not
> >>>>> too urgently) start in C with at least some level of
> >>>>> self-confidence and
> >>>>> understanding?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there some kind of book like "Everything you should know about
> the
> >>>>> Von Neumann machine to get by unscathed without brain damage" or so?
> >>>>> Except Donald Knuth because I also have a day job to fulfill :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Straight from the horse's mouth:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.cs.unc.edu/~adyilie/comp265/vonNeumann.html
> >>>>
> >>>> :) :) :)
> >>>>
> >>>> And no, I never met Von Neumann but I *did* write software for an
> >>>> original Von Neumann machine -- ILLIAC I :).
> >>>>
> >>> WOW, that's some classically fluffed up academic writing...
> >>
> >> You *did* see the date, right? Von Neumann died in 1957. That paper,
> >> as well known as it is, was pretty tough to track down in HTML.
> >> Remember, he was a theoretical and applied mathematician for decades
> >> before he turned to "computer engineering". If you think it's
> >> "classically fluffed up academic writing," you ought to see some of
> >> his papers on Hilbert spaces. :)
> >>
> >> There was actually a second paper on programming the machine, which is
> >> even harder to find. I have a printed copy somewhere, but I haven't
> >> found it on line yet.
> >>
> > Sorry Ed, think we crossed wires. I was talking about the Priess piece
> > somebody posted a link to earlier. The guy "translated" his "web book"
> > (think 1993 web sites) to 8 or 9 programming languages, but it all seems
> > rooted in C++ so it just doesn't make sense with Ruby (let alone most of
> > the others)
> >
> >
> Ah ... yes ... the Priess book is junk, even the clean and "published"
> versions. The Ruby version is a tad worse than the originals.
>
>

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