From: Diego Suarez Date: 2007-09-28T20:35:36+09:00 Subject: Re: Anyone interested In IronRuby ------=_Part_230_19878093.1190979336073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline This is a bit OT, I'm sorry for that. No flame intended, only my opinion. I'm not a fan of Microsoft at all, but one thing is crystal clear: Microsof= t is a company. It's goal is to make money, the more the best, and other "good" companies (IBM, Sun, Oracle, Google) have the same goal, even if the= y usually help the OSS community. It's a matter of fact that Microsoft has stolen nearly a half of his killer-apps, but I think .NET is their best ide= a in years: *theorically* is multi-platform -the Mono guys are working a lot-= , and it allows to inter-communicate a lot of languages, and only for that IronRuby deserves all my respect: I could work within a C# project almost perfectly with my favourite programming language without a lot of headaches defining wrappers for passing around my data between different languages. If someone is "stolen" by Microsoft he doesn't became "the enemy" automatically, think in Van Rossum, who works for Google and nobody has complaint yet :-) About Spanish sayings, I know another: "Al cuco no cuques y al ladr=F3n no hurtes" ;-) (don't steal a thief and don't make cuckoo to the cuckoo(=BF?) = ). And the last for today, a bit gross, "Hombre refranero, maric=F3n embustero= " :-p On 9/28/07, Victor Reyes wrote: > > Although I am a Ruby apprentice and had not contributed anything other > than > spreading the words about Ruby, > I agree 1000% with Rikard. > Microsoft is like a symbiotic parasite that eats and eats until the host > is > completely gone! > I still remember back on the '80s when MS robbed a small company I think > name Stacker, of their only way of making money. It was a compression > software (back when a 20MB HD was a luxurious) for DOS. Later they robbed > Internet Explorer from one guy (not even a company, but from one guy). > I can probably fill couple pages with the name of stolen software > components > that made Bill Gate and MS billionaire! > I only use any MS product when I am forced to do so. > Ah one more thing, it does not bother me when people around the world run > pirate copies of MS software. > There is a Spanish say that states: "Ladr=F3n que le roba a otro ladr=F3n > tiene > 100 a=F1os de perd=F3n", badly translated, without any rhyme, to English:= "A > thief that stills from another thief deserves 100 years of pardon" > > Oh well! > > On 9/27/07, Rikard Lindby wrote: > > > > Is IronRuby just like Ruby except you get the .Net platform? > > > > If not, has MS contributed anything of what they have done to > > "improve" the language to the ruby community? > > > > Or If it is just like ruby + .Net, why didnt MS work with the > > community to make the .Net stuff an extension to the real ruby, > > instead of taking from the community and locking it to their platform? > > > > Is this history repeating itself ? We don't like java because it is > > controlled by sun. We cant make any money from it so lets take all the > > good ideas sun has worked out do some improvements and call it our > > own. (C#) > > Or is it like... the list goes on and on. > > > > > > Sorry about my grumpy attitude towards MS, but over the years I have > > seen so much foul play from that company, so sometimes I feel the need > > to cry out :) > > > > On 9/28/07, Phrogz wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 11:47 pm, IronRuby wrote: > > > > I would like to know, how many folks here are waiting to start with > > > > IronRuby and how many have already implemented this in one or > another > > > > way. > > > > > > I'm currently involved in the design of a large C# application > > > developed by my company, which is fully scriptable (currently) in > > > IronPython. As a strong Ruby advocate, I plan to fully support > > > IronRuby as well as soon as the DLR is released and feeling solid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_Part_230_19878093.1190979336073--