From: matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) Date: 2001-11-28T15:27:54+09:00 Subject: [ruby-talk:26746] Re: [OT] Re: KDE or GNOME curiosity question... Hi, In message "[ruby-talk:26544] Re: [OT] Re: KDE or GNOME curiosity question..." on 01/11/27, "mark hahn" writes: |> Circular references will cause the object to stay around indefinitely | |I was thinking of the reference counting as being totally seperate from gc. |So ref counting would have no effect one way or the other as to how long |objects "stay around". The only effect of the ref counting would be to call |the special method which is not the gc finalizer. I don't have a name for |this method yet, maybe "pre-finalizer"? Hmm, I'm not sure how it works and how much useful. At least implicit ref counting requires write barrier opened. matz.