From: "Peña, Botp" Date: 2007-09-01T13:07:52+09:00 Subject: Re: attr_reader From: 7stud *** [mailto:dolgun@excite.com] # Huh? As far as I can tell, no setter methods are created: # # class Song # attr_reader :x, :y, :z sorry, i misread your post. attr_reader only gives getters. # My program has no attr_accessor line (the book hasn't mentioned # attr_accessor yet). Your saying the initialize method in my program # doesn't create the instance variables? my english is poor. sorry. initialize will create it, but it's not the only way. you can create your own setters. kind regards -botp