From: Daniel Lucraft Date: 2007-08-03T17:14:32+09:00 Subject: Re: Groklaw says "Watch out, Ruby!" Uma Geller wrote: > Actually, there are many differences between the MS-PL > and the *real* open source licenses approved by OSI, > as pj@groklaw has pointed out in further detail > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070730120109643 > > Would you want to ellaborate more on this ? > Hopefully the dialog will result in Microsoft moving closer to > what open source really stands for. > > Regardless of the outcome, thanks John for your outstanding > work reaching out to the community. Groklaw is saying that real open source licenses obligate licensees to distribute source code of derived works IF they distribute binaries. OK. Ms-PL doesn't do that. But how does the MIT license require this? There is no wording in there anywhere that looks anything like that, but MIT is in the OSI license database. Groklaw also says that Ms-PL allows licensees to charge for modified works. Well, the MIT license specifically allows fees as well. It seems that Ms-PL is as much an open source license as the MIT license. Those MIT bastards! ------------------------ The MIT License Copyright (c) Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE. ------------------------- best, Dan -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.