From: Robert Klemme Date: 2007-07-17T23:08:05+09:00 Subject: Re: Taking the bull by its horns [was background] m40y, located in Germany Studies in CS using Pascal at the time, before that juvenile Z80 hackery, after university a bit of C++ coding and then Java. I also like bash / sh programming and use Ruby for small day to day data mining / manipulating tasks for which I used Perl once (must be ages ago). Currently diving into J2EE. Ah, and of course lots of SQL (mainly Oracle and SQL Server). robert PS: Robert, IMHO Pascal is a great language for learning to program because it omits the dimension of OO and allows to focus on proper structuring. Also, it's far more readable than C.