From: Todd Benson <caduceass@...>
Date: 2007-07-16T10:21:20+09:00
Subject: Re: I need serious help!

On 7/15/07, Joe Wiltrout <wiltroutja@aol.com> wrote:
> unknown wrote:
> > In message <014ac61748b0c3e081129f75c81ab99f@ruby-forum.com>, Joe
> > Wiltrout writes:
> >>Ahh. The sour sound of stupid people. The people who responded (with the
> >>exception of Aur, who suggested the Logo language to me) did not listen.
> >>I asked for help on how to start making a very simple game. Not advice
> >>on how to start programming.
> >
> > Well, this may seem odd to you, but if I come into a room full of
> > programmers,
> > and ask them to tell me how to make a program, I expect them to try to
> > tell
> > me how to learn to program.
> >
> >>And, unlike most of these programmers, I
> >>only have programming as something I want to do for fun.
> >
> > Well, you know, back when I was first learning to program, I was the
> > same
> > way.  I'd been writing programs for ten years just for the fun of it
> > before
> > it occurred to me that people got paid for that stuff.
> >
> >>I know most of
> >>you are getting paid to program or w/e, but I'm not. I really just want
> >>to have fun. And puts('hello world!') over and over again is not fun.
> >
> > Right.
> >
> > But NO ONE TOLD YOU TO DO THAT.  That's your own imagination, not
> > anything
> > people told you.
> >
> > -s
>
> Hate to break it to you, but people did tell me to write basic programs
> over and over. I use the term Hello World to symbolize all of the stupid
> little basic commands and words that people want me to do. It occured to
> me that people write programs and get paid too, but one tihng occured to
> me to. I HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AS IT IS. And if your going to quote me on my
> I don't have money to spend on books and the like statement, look at it
> closer. BOOKS AND THE LIKE! I have plenty of money to spend on things I
> want or need. Learning to program games was just one thing I decided to
> start after hitting my head on a low ceiling. Of course at that time my
> game was going to be called Ceiling Killers. Where you were a dude with
> fireworks and shot roman candles at peoples ceilings. Course that didnt
> seem like much fun after my head cleared. Thats what 3 hours knocked out
> will do to ya.

Wow.  This is like watching a train wreck.  Or, like, a really bad
soap opera.  Joe, I feel bad for ya, man.  I hope whatever money you
have can buy you respect, because your self-proclaimed genius
certainly doesn't.

I've seen some spoiled brats on forums before, but you definitely take
the ticket -- to such an extreme, even, that I have a hard time
believing your real.  I'm sure your family is forthrightly proud of
you.  I'm not being sarcastic, either.

Todd