From: Joe Wiltrout <wiltroutja@...>
Date: 2007-07-16T09:22:24+09:00
Subject: Re: I need serious help!

Travis D Warlick Jr wrote:
> Joe Wiltrout wrote:
>>>> Many of us would still be waiting if we were gonna wait 40 years to make
>>>> something.  I'm not even 40 yet.  :)
>>> I suppose I should stop writing code.  My forty years haven't passed yet
>>> either.
>> 
>> Hate to break it to you, but that *was* exageration. Yall said varying 
>> answers from 5-6 to 10 years. I have friends who learned to program from 
>> scratch in 6 months flat. Making games on the Gamebryo Engine and C++, 
>> all that good stuff. 
> 
> One thing that is lacking here is the fact that programming/coding is
> only (or at least *should* only) be about 10-20% of the total time you
> spend on any project.  The rest should be planning.  Coding is the easy
> part.  Coming up with the proper use cases, Object structures, flow
> charts, etc is the hard part.  This is the part that takes literally a
> decade or so of experience to learn. (Don't get me wrong, I don't have
> this experience, I just see see the people with the experience every 
> day)
... I have the entire game planned out. And I consider all this proper 
use cases etc, coding and programming. If it involves programming, its 
in the programming catagory. Therefore coding/programming is really 
about 90% of it. 9 is the idea itself. And the remaining .5% is where to 
get the coffee and donuts.

> In my Principles of Programming Languages class we crash-coursed about a
> dozen languages of all types, and after that I've learned to pick up new
> languages very quickly.  But that doesn't mean, by any stretch of the
> imagination, that I could write good, well written software in any of
> them.  I can get by in all of them, but I'm only fluent in a handful.
> 
> --
>   Travis Warlick
> 
>   "Programming in Java is like dealing with your mom --
>    it's kind, forgiving, and gently chastising.
>    Programming in C++ is like dealing with a disgruntled
>    girlfriend -- it's cold, unforgiving, and doesn't tell
>    you what you've done wrong."


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