From: Craig Johnson Date: 2007-07-16T09:17:01+09:00 Subject: Re: I need serious help! Let's recap a moment :) Joe wants to build interesting games, he wants to program them. Matthew's example with aa, bb as location names was beyond Joe... he is concerned he's stuck with those names... JOE THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO STUDY SO YOU DON'T ASK THINGS LIKE THAT--YOU'D KNOW ALREADY Joe doesn't know what hyperbole is---and what's worse attempts to defend that he is right based on some complex mathematics of how many times he could write Hello world... JOE THE POINT WAS NOT TO DO THE SAME STUPID THING MANY TIMES BUT TO EXPLORE MANY DIFFERENT BASICS SO YOU UNDERSTAND.. Joe can't make yahoo work---so he's stumped (yea, like I'm sure it's Yahoo that is having a brain fart--not our indigent ignoramous) AND YES JOE YOU WERE BEING CALLED A TROLL AND JOE--YOU WERE THE SWINE, they cast the pearls... and Joe, learn to spell--Alliance.... So---Joe--you are way beyond pointless at this point. I wish you well with LOGO (Trying to explain how you making shapes in Logo is so orthogonal to what you say you want to do would be pointless at this point in your understanding of the world and what you have set yourself for a task, so I won't bother) GO READ GO STUDY Come back when you are wiser in the ways of programming, games, and social skills. Begone. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounce@example.com [mailto:list-bounce@example.com] On Behalf Of Joe Wiltrout Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:07 PM To: ruby-talk ML Subject: Re: I need serious help! Stefan Rusterholz wrote: > Joe Wiltrout wrote: >> Hate to break it to you, but that *was* exageration. Yall said varying >> answers from 5-6 to 10 years. I have friends who learned to program from >> scratch in 6 months flat. Making games on the Gamebryo Engine and C++, >> all that good stuff. If yall don't know what the Gamebryo Engine is, >> smoke some of the stuff ur giving out. 1.) Google it! 2.) Wiki it. 3.) >> Ask me and await my unhelpful response. 4.) Ask your 'busy' people and >> friends. 5.) Go write Gamebryo Engine on the whiteboard 256650 times. >> Then you will know what it is. > > You indeed need serious help. > But not for coding, for your social skills. > You just singlehandedly managed to turn about 20 people who were willing > to help you against you. Quite an achievement. I hope you have more luck > (or maybe just manners/patience?) in the java/logo communities. > > Regards > Stefan Ahh. The sour sound of stupid people. The people who responded (with the exception of Aur, who suggested the Logo language to me) did not listen. I asked for help on how to start making a very simple game. Not advice on how to start programming. And, unlike most of these programmers, I only have programming as something I want to do for fun. I know most of you are getting paid to program or w/e, but I'm not. I really just want to have fun. And puts('hello world!') over and over again is not fun. I decided to screw Why's guide, and I just read the comics and sidebars unrelated to programming. Would have been a good book if he left out the programming. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.