From: Craig Johnson Date: 2007-07-14T11:43:08+09:00 Subject: Re: I need serious help! Joe, don't be impatient and ignorant--it's just annoying to read. You are on a ruby language help forum. these people know what they are talking about. what is it about your "wisdom" that makes you think you are right, and they are wrong. I suspect you're what 18-22? maybe younger? Go do the hello worlds. do 100 other little things to learn how the language works... What you are saying is "I want to Write the best work of literature in a Serbo-Croation, a language I don't know" ... people are saying go learn the language, go use it for a while...and you are saying "You people are stupid because you can't tell me how to write in another language without having to spend time doing work to become proficient" (that thing in the matrix--about learning to fly helicopters---that was in a sim man---it wasn't real....hello....) GUESS WHAT JOE---IT'S WORK... So----you can decide: A) We dumb-arse's don't know what we're talking about, and you in your wisdom know better...and move on. B) You can decide that you really would rather go back to using wood. C) You can go back to playing and stop having to possible think or work OR D) BUCKLE DOWN, DO THE WORK, LEARN THE PROCESS.... How many books about game design have you even skimmed? or on the net? How about classes for Game design? I appreciate the comic relief you've provided I am amused by your angst that life is so hard on you My pity wells up that the world is so unfair that one so wise as you can't know all things in an instant....we poor fools had to go learn the "hard way"...I know that's passe' with your ilk, but---tough dude. Get real -----Original Message----- From: list-bounce@example.com [mailto:list-bounce@example.com] On Behalf Of Joe Wiltrout Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:27 PM To: ruby-talk ML Subject: Re: I need serious help! Felix Windt wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> >>Guide lost me at about chapter 3. The best thing I'v done >> recommendation >> >>better than me. >> vague, or kick me in the ass and tell me to do something else. >> > >> > -s >> >> >> -- >> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. >> > > > The problem is that you're asking for something impossible. > > That's made worse by the fact that no matter how many arguments are > presented to you, you refuse to see it as such. > > Maybe - and I'm just inviting you to do this, not telling you to do this > - > you might want to consider the possibility that the people you received > advice from were not bad teachers, but that you are a bad student. > > Felix Your right. I don't see any good advice. Because people aren't giving me advice. They are telling me to code Hello World for years and years. Problem is, how does that help? It doesn't. It doesn't code in a weapon, it doesn't make a boat move, it doesn't do anything at all. It makes your computer re-print Hello World. I'v done the Hello World thing 60 times. I counted. And guess what? Im nowhere closer to making a game. And as for the Stool building to House building, there's a great difference between building stools and building houses. I built several stools, chairs, tables, chests, and boxes. Just wood, nails, hammer, and finish. And for some things, hinges, locks, and cushions. But houses have electric things to install, tiling, carpet, cieling fans, etc to put in. The methods are completely different. And I can't say that any person on this thread was actually a "teacher" because nobody taught me anything. They told me to learn things. A teacher doesn't say Go buy this book and read it, then write 2+5 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000 times and you will learn how to multiply. A teacher would explain how you get the answer to 2+5. Then the teacher would explain how you apply the same principles to multiplying, then you would learn algebra, physics, calculus, etc. And how do you know Rome wasn't built in a day? For all you know, it could have been built in 10 seconds flat. No one can prove anything. It's a fact. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.