From: Felix Windt Date: 2007-07-14T11:07:26+09:00 Subject: Re: I need serious help! ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C7C580.750C88F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounce@example.com > [mailto:list-bounce@example.com] On Behalf Of Joe Wiltrout > Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:56 PM > To: ruby-talk ML > Subject: Re: I need serious help! > > unknown wrote: > > In message , Joe > > Wiltrout writes: > >>Why's > >>Guide lost me at about chapter 3. The best thing I'v done > in Ruby is > >>make the thingy reconize a sandwich as Ham, Turkey, Cheese. > So, could > >>someone inform me if this is normal to not understand any of this > >>stuff at all? > > > > To put it in perspective, I can program fluently in > something like a > > dozen programming languages, and I found why's guide utterly > > impenetrable; in fact, it put me off Ruby until I got a > recommendation > > that led me to find a book written in a slightly more conventional > > style. Different people may have wildly different learning styles. > > > > But it is fairly normal not to understand anything at all > when you are > > just starting out in a new language. I liked Chris Pine's guide, > > which is also available online, and/or the expanded form which is a > > paperback book. > > > >>Because I'm sure the programming team at Blizzard started out alot > >>better than me. > > > > Well, certainly, by the time they were working there, yeah. :) > > No. Not even by the time they were working there. Everyone of > em certainly understood this shit much better than I do. Or > they would have given up too. And what languages does Chris > Pines book teach? Because I'v decided to screw Ruby, because > it hasnt helped at all. And if everyone is so professional > and talented, why can't they give me straight forward help? > You guys are like Jedi or bad teachers. Either be really > vague, or kick me in the ass and tell me to do something else. > > > > -s > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > The problem is that you're asking for something impossible. That's made worse by the fact that no matter how many arguments are presented to you, you refuse to see it as such. Maybe - and I'm just inviting you to do this, not telling you to do this - you might want to consider the possibility that the people you received advice from were not bad teachers, but that you are a bad student. 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