From: Craig Johnson Date: 2007-07-14T11:02:29+09:00 Subject: Re: I need serious help! You know Joe... Calm down #1----you are asking for people's help--they are actually offering good advice---but you are not seeing it... Let me lay it out... Programming takes work--to learn how the tools work, how the languages work, what kinds of models and data structures work---all that stuff..... And you learn that stuff by doing those silly little exercises...lots of them....do that for a few weeks...then pick a SMALL real problem and solve it yourself---and you'll rediscover how much you Don't know... Then you go figure that out, and pick another one.... And you do that for years---and you learn to build games. OK? IF, on the other hand, you think you are special and it should be easier for you or that people here owe you their time to guide you..then either: A) YOU REALLY DO NEED SERIOUS HELP (but not the kind you think) or B) You can hire people to help you...find someone to tutor you---for money or some other coin you can agree on.... but... Don't be such a butt-head about it---people are telling you straight, problem is you just don't like the answers.. tough. Welcome to life. :) -----Original Message----- From: list-bounce@example.com [mailto:list-bounce@example.com] On Behalf Of Joe Wiltrout Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:53 PM To: ruby-talk ML Subject: Re: I need serious help! Matt Greer wrote: > On 7/13/07, Joe Wiltrout wrote: >> >> Because the topic at hand was never >> addressed really. The original question was how would I get started >> making a game if I had no prior coding experiance?. And I haven't >> received much on that subject. > > > How do you start? With this > > #include > > int main() { > printf("Hello World!\n"); > return 0; > } > > > or, if you prefer Ruby: > > puts("Hello World!"); > > > You're talking to a mailing list full of professional and/or very > talented > developers. You really don't think people here have an idea of what it > takes > to make something like an MMORPG? Believe me, they do. The advice you > are > getting is dead on. Learn how to program first. Then learn how to make > games. If it was really as easy as you want it to be, don't you think > everyone would be making MMORPGs? > > Matt How the hell is Hello World going to help me make a game? For gods sake, no-one in the game is going to be saying Hello World. I might even censor it because it is so damn annoying. And what exactly am I going to learn to program? People tell me to learn to program, but they don't say what to learn how to program? Am I programming a window to turn pink? Am I programming a website? NO! I'm programming a damn sandwich as Ham Turkey Cheese, or making something say Hello World. No, not even that. I'm not even making something say it. I am typing all sorts of texts, just to make the computer re-type Hello World. All these tutorials and your useless advice is getting me nowhere. Because I don't understand this stuff. I asked for help, not lectures about Learn To Program!. And last time I checked, a great many people made MMORPGs. Because ya know what? Blizzard Entertainment has over 100 people coding WoW at any given time, in any given place. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.