From: Armin Roehrl <armin@...>
Date: 2001-11-20T19:39:20+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:25904] Re: SV: Human Oriented Programming & Intentional Pr ogramming

> I read generative programming a month a go, and the first thing tht struck
> was also..RUBY..
>
> It seems like the dynamic nature of the language (along with the libs you
> mentioned) would ease the move to IP or generative programming...
>
> Its a very interesting field, that some ruby dudes maybe should look at??
>Mikkel
Forgive my ignorance (Yesterday I ordered that book and have not yet got it),
but is there any article (online if possible) to read to convince me that
- IP will make me more productive
- IBM's hyperspace will make me more productive
I really don't want to put it down, as I don't know about it.

Thanks,
	A

>
> > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > Fra: Lachlan Pitts [mailto:Lachlan_Pitts@Softworks.com.au]
> > Sendt: 20 November 2001 02:28
> > Til: ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org
> > Emne: [ruby-talk:25872] Human Oriented Programming & Intentional
> > Programming
> >
> >
> > Hi Rubyers,
> >
> > Just a thought (and not a particularly well examined one) from an
> > amateur. With Ruby's blurring of the lines between compilation and
> > execution, I am wondering whether this scripting language (which is SO
> > cool), its extensions like RubyInRuby, MetaRuby, AspectR and
> > Behaviours
> > and the much discussed cross-platform windowing library
> > (maybe JRuby and
> > the Eclipse windowing libraries is another combination) could at least
> > _bootstrap_ an open-source Intentional Programming system (a la
> > Microsoft Research).  An examination of which is available in :
> >
> > "Generative Programming: Methods, Tools, and Applications" by
> > Krzysztof
> > Czarnecki, Ulrich Eisenecker
> > 864 pages 1 edition (June 6, 2000) Addison-Wesley Pub Co; ISBN:
> > 0201309777
> >
> > and various places around the Net.
> >
> > From what I understand the thought is to move programming languages to
> > being compositions of intention declarations (sort of like an active
> > adorned Abstract Syntax Tree on steroids) allowing new abstractions to
> > become part of the programming system.  "Active source"
> > almost :)  Each
> > intention can have sub intentions that specialize its edition
> > (+ version
> > control), display, printing, evaluation (whether edition time
> > or no) and
> > even code generation.  Domain Specific Languages can then be
> > constructed
> > and shared in a fairly processor agnostic yet efficient manner.
> >
> > Anyway, its just a vapourware thought hoping to _stimulate
> > discussion_.
> > Back to having fun with Ruby :)
> >
> > PS: Another fun thing to think about it is the extension to Subject
> > Oriented Programming from IBM -
> > http://www.research.ibm.com/hyperspace/
> > in Ruby (runtime composition of concern spaces) - that would be very
> > cool too :) (Although both thoughts do turn my brain into knots :).
> >
> > Lachlan Pitts

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Armin.

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