From: David Southwell <david@...2000.net>
Date: 2007-07-06T01:20:57+09:00
Subject: Re: eclipse & subversion

On Thursday 05 July 2007 08:44:13 Gregory Brown wrote:
> On 7/5/07, Robert Dober <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It is in my opinion off topic. Ruby is only very tangentially related
> > > to your question, you're are not even asking about ruby plugins for
> > > Eclipse, except in the sense you happen to be using them. I also do not
> > > mind the occasional diversion, but I agree with Gregory Brown, it would
> > > be courteous (and easy!) for you to put an [OT] tag on your subject
> > > line (or even a [Slighty OT]).
> >
> > I strongly disagree with Gregory's and Logan's POV.
> > We had so much more OT stuff, I feel that this is not OT at all, BTW
> > it does not interest me a tiny little bit, but there is a difference
> > between OT and Does not interest me.
> >
> > Furthermore I do not remember any post of bad form or content by
> > David, if you have an issue with David, maybe you can handle it OL?
>
> Actually, I have no issue at all with David.  I thought that my
> suggestion was a polite one, but I can see how it could be
> misinterpreted.  I'm just thinking that with all the possible editors
> with Ruby modes, maybe we'd end up with way more traffic than we can
> handle if we started fielding a bunch of non-ruby questions.
>
> I mean, the question was about configuring SVN, not about something
> like "matching do/end braces or Ruby syntax coloring".  That to me
> feels like the kind of question that would be much better asked on a
> project's own forums or mailing lists.  It just so happens that Aptana
> has a very active community[0], so all the better.
>
> As I mentioned, I have no problem with posts like that here because
> they definitely might be interesting to some of our readers.  But
> they're not on the topic of Ruby.  They're on the topic of how to
> configure a tool that can be used in Ruby development and might be
> used by a minority of our readers here.  That to me is off topic, or
> at least tangental.  Indicating it in the subject line is not a rule,
> just a matter of politeness.  (And an easy thing to do!)
>
> I disappeared for a while because I was having trouble keeping up with
> RubyTalk, but now I'm trying very hard to keep up again.  Small
> courtesies go a long way in helping make the list more easily
> readable.
>
I agree

Small courtesies do help but big courtesies go a long way. A small courtesy is 
NOT to be pedantic. A big courtesy is to be constructive as possible at all 
times rather than picking nits. Franky I find contributions that tell people 
how they should or should not behave at best irritating as well as 
discourteous and at worst inflamatory and best avoided. 

I do not know how you know what proportion of readers use any particu;lar tool 
nor was I aware a discussion was likely to of OT if it happens, in your 
opinion (however that may be arrived at)  to be of interest to a minority 
however large or small. 

So lets drasw a close to this and hopefully future dialogues will be 
constructive.

david Southwell