From: Henning von Rosen <henning@...>
Date: 2001-11-16T21:50:47+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:25420] Re: more on [matz:"Human Oriented Programming"?]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yukihiro Matsumoto" <matz@ruby-lang.org>
To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 7:27 AM
Subject: [ruby-talk:25390] Re: more on [matz:"Human Oriented Programming"?]


> Hi,
>
> In message "[ruby-talk:25347] more on [matz:"Human Oriented
Programming"?]"
>     on 01/11/16, "Henning von Rosen" <henning@ikso.net> writes:
>
> |During RubyConf, matz gave a keynote on "Human oriented Programming".
> |
> |The slides are here: http://www.rubyconf.org/2001/talks/rc2001-a/
> |
> |I find this interesting. Does anyone know where too find more about it?
> |
> |* Is there any soundrecording from the speach, manuskcript/article?
>
> Rich Kilmer was taking video of the presentaion.  I'm not sure how
> good recording quality is.  You would have to endure my poor English
> anyway.
>
> |** Are there related material on the web or elsewhere?
>
> Presentation materials for Linux Expo Paris and JAOO has similar
> contents, but no further.
>
> If you really want to know more, ask me here.

(and now I am supposing thet you said more in the speach, then is in the
slide!)

I like this slide of the keynote:

#######################
#Slide 13: Pseudo-Simplicity
#
#Ruby is NOT the simplest language.
#
#Number of Syntax Rules
#Number of built-in classes, methods
#
#But complexity is OK if human can handle it.*
#
#You don't care complexity, if you don't notice it.
#Naturalness and consistency hide complexity.
#You don't have to know all at once before you use Ruby.
#Learn as you go.
##########################

* "But complexity is OK if human can handle it."

How did you arrive at this conlusion/insight?

Would you ellaborate a little on it/give small example?

thanks!

/H