[#246252] How to use standard library? — Jamal Soueidan <jkhaledsoueidan@...>

Hello,

18 messages 2007/04/01
[#246253] Re: How to use standard library? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2007/04/01

Alle domenica 1 aprile 2007, Jamal Soueidan ha scritto:

[#246263] Re: How to use standard library? — "Yamal Soueidan" <jkhaledsoueidan@...> 2007/04/01

Well, where does it identify its module and not a class?

[#246267] Re: How to use standard library? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2007/04/01

Alle domenica 1 aprile 2007, Yamal Soueidan ha scritto:

[#246368] Map Or Collect Redux — "RubyTalk@..." <rubytalk@...>

Looking in the old archives of ruby-talk I found a thread in 2005

11 messages 2007/04/02

[#246378] Test::Unit Reports — aidy.lewis@...

Hi,

23 messages 2007/04/02

[#246464] Last iteration condition — "Mike" <michaelst@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2007/04/03

[#246590] Everything is a object? — Jamal Soueidan <jkhaledsoueidan@...>

Hello,

40 messages 2007/04/03
[#246598] Re: Everything is a object? — Jamal Soueidan <jkhaledsoueidan@...> 2007/04/04

Jamal Soueidan wrote:

[#246600] Re: Everything is a object? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2007/04/04

[#246601] Re: Everything is a object? — Jamal Soueidan <jkhaledsoueidan@...> 2007/04/04

Gary Wright wrote:

[#246614] fast XML parser, other than libxml — Peter Szinek <peter@...>

Hello all,

20 messages 2007/04/04
[#246615] Re: fast XML parser, other than libxml — "Keith Fahlgren" <keith@...> 2007/04/04

On 4/3/07, Peter Szinek <peter@rubyrailways.com> wrote:

[#246626] Re: fast XML parser, other than libxml — Peter Szinek <peter@...> 2007/04/04

Keith Fahlgren wrote:

[#246629] Re: fast XML parser, other than libxml — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/04

On 04.04.2007 10:53, Peter Szinek wrote:

[#246630] Re: fast XML parser, other than libxml — Peter Szinek <peter@...> 2007/04/04

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#246669] Problem Extracting Array Values — Dustin Anderson <rubyforum@...>

Hi All,

16 messages 2007/04/04
[#246672] Re: Problem Extracting Array Values — "ChrisH" <chris.hulan@...> 2007/04/04

On Apr 4, 10:02 am, Dustin Anderson <rubyfo...@dustinanderson.com>

[#246673] Re: Problem Extracting Array Values — "Ryan Leavengood" <leavengood@...> 2007/04/04

On 4/4/07, ChrisH <chris.hulan@gmail.com> wrote:

[#246679] Re: Problem Extracting Array Values — Dustin Anderson <rubyforum@...> 2007/04/04

[#246702] nil? and non-existent objects — "François Montel" <zerohalo@...>

Why is it that the nil? method can sometimes be called on an object that

12 messages 2007/04/04

[#246830] Redefining initialize while staying -w clean — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>

Hi all,

11 messages 2007/04/05

[#246929] Getting to 100 (#119) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

57 messages 2007/04/06
[#247191] Re: Getting to 100 (#119) — "Carl Porth" <badcarl@...> 2007/04/08

here is my first pass:

[#247192] Re: Getting to 100 (#119) — "Carl Porth" <badcarl@...> 2007/04/08

After going back and reading the current solutions, I like Ken Bloom's

[#247215] Re: Getting to 100 (#119) — "Marcel Ward" <wardies@...> 2007/04/09

On 08/04/07, Carl Porth <badcarl@gmail.com> wrote:

[#246946] A few beginners questions — wannaberor <amldcc@...>

Guys,

15 messages 2007/04/06

[#247059] Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@...>

Hello everyone,

40 messages 2007/04/07
[#247078] Re: Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — Michael Brooks <michael.brooks@...> 2007/04/07

SonOfLilit wrote:

[#247097] Re: Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — "ChrisKaelin" <ck.stonedragon@...> 2007/04/07

I totally agree, what people say about a single-entry-point: ruby-

[#247099] Re: Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2007/04/07

ChrisKaelin wrote:

[#247100] Re: Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — "Jeff" <cohen.jeff@...> 2007/04/07

On Apr 7, 4:30 pm, James Britt <james.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247131] Minimum ruby installation. — "bino_oetomo" <bino@...> 2007/04/08

Dear Experts.

[#247151] Re: Minimum ruby installation. — Alex Young <alex@...> 2007/04/08

bino_oetomo wrote:

[#247062] rb_yield(), break, and C extensions — "Noah Easterly" <noah.easterly@...>

So, I'm working on a C extension.

11 messages 2007/04/07

[#247088] Trying to GET google with socket....problem — Hey You <r3madi@...>

Well I don't know why the socket can't connect to Google. Here is my

17 messages 2007/04/07

[#247155] code blocks and methods — andy <eps@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2007/04/08

[#247299] Infinate Loop - Please Advise — "Merrie" <merries@...>

This program produces an infinate loop. I am learning from Learn to =

13 messages 2007/04/09

[#247338] How to Write a Spelling Corrector — Brian Adkins <lojicdotcomNOSPAM@...>

Peter Norvig wrote a simple spelling corrector in 20 lines of Python 2.5,

12 messages 2007/04/10

[#247391] Slow ruby regexes — Emmanuel <emmanuel@...>

Hello i've been reading this article, wich has a few benchmarks

47 messages 2007/04/10
[#247402] Re: Slow ruby regexes — SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@...> 2007/04/10

Read wikipedia on Regex. It explains better than I can why one is used

[#247403] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/10

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:59:29 +0900, SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247409] Re: Slow ruby regexes — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/10

On 4/10/07, MenTaLguY <mental@rydia.net> wrote:

[#247410] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/10

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:56:28 +0900, "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247455] Re: Slow ruby regexes — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/11

On 4/10/07, MenTaLguY <mental@rydia.net> wrote:

[#247456] Re: Slow ruby regexes — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/11

oops wrong button here :(

[#247499] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/11

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:53:26 +0900, "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247518] Re: Slow ruby regexes — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/11

On 4/11/07, MenTaLguY <mental@rydia.net> wrote:

[#247541] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/11

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:27:04 +0900, "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247608] Re: Slow ruby regexes — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/12

On 11.04.2007 22:51, MenTaLguY wrote:

[#247683] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/12

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:10:06 +0900, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#247770] Re: Slow ruby regexes — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/13

On 12.04.2007 18:31, MenTaLguY wrote:

[#247398] ClothRed (HTML to Textile) — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...>

I'm pleased to announce, that I've begun working on a small library to

16 messages 2007/04/10
[#247526] Re: [ANN] ClothRed (HTML to Textile) — "Victor \"Zverok\" Shepelev" <vshepelev@...> 2007/04/11

From: Phillip Gawlowski [mailto:cmdjackryan@googlemail.com]

[#247436] NameError: uninitialized constant Date::ABBR_MONTHS — Jigar Gosar <jigar.gosar@...>

DATE::ABBR_MONTHS exists in this doc here.

13 messages 2007/04/11

[#247471] How come this doesn't work? — Hey You <r3madi@...>

require 'socket'

13 messages 2007/04/11

[#247622] What is your favourite IDE? — "ChrisKaelin" <ck.stonedragon@...>

I prefer using eclipse for it's freedom, ruby and svn plugins etc. But

95 messages 2007/04/12
[#247681] Re: What is your favourite IDE? — Todd Werth <twerth@...> 2007/04/12

ChrisKaelin wrote:

[#247980] Re: IDEs, syntactic vs. semantic highlighting, etc. — Tim X <timx@...> 2007/04/15

Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> writes:

[#247737] Re: What is your favourite IDE? — Vlad Ciubotariu <vcciubot@...> 2007/04/12

Is anyone using Activestate's Kodomo? I know activestate is a player in

[#247757] Re: What is your favourite IDE? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2007/04/13

Vlad Ciubotariu wrote:

[#247913] Re: What is your favourite IDE? Eclipse DLTK! — Tim X <timx@...> 2007/04/14

Todd Werth <twerth@infinitered.com> writes:

[#247636] Re: What is your favourite IDE? — "Alexey Kalmykov" <akalmykov@...>

15 messages 2007/04/12

[#247725] SNMP agent library? — "Marcus Bristav" <marcus.bristav@...>

I need to write an SNMP agent (raise traps and expose MIBs). Is there

15 messages 2007/04/12
[#247741] Re: SNMP agent library? — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2007/04/13

On 4/12/07, Marcus Bristav <marcus.bristav@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247790] Re: SNMP agent library? — "Marcus Bristav" <marcus.bristav@...> 2007/04/13

Hi Francis,

[#247809] Re: SNMP agent library? — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2007/04/13

On 4/13/07, Marcus Bristav <marcus.bristav@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247760] Idiom wanted (now hiring!) — Jonathan <terhorst@...>

Is there a cool way to do this without calling the function twice?:

28 messages 2007/04/13
[#247767] Re: Idiom wanted (now hiring!) — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2007/04/13

Jonathan wrote:

[#247783] Re: Idiom wanted (now hiring!) — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/13

On 4/13/07, Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@path.berkeley.edu> wrote:

[#247805] Magic Fingers (#120) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

14 messages 2007/04/13

[#247974] executing a system command and stopping it after a specified duration? — Robert La Ferla <robertlaferla@...>

I'd like to run a system command and then stop it after specified

9 messages 2007/04/15

[#248026] translate Perl diamond operator to Ruby — Chad Perrin <perrin@...>

Over the years, I've found the following to be an excellent way to whip

13 messages 2007/04/15

[#248151] factorial in ruby — "Trans" <transfire@...>

Is factorial defined anywhere in Ruby's core or standard library. If

21 messages 2007/04/16
[#248154] Re: factorial in ruby — "Jason Roelofs" <jameskilton@...> 2007/04/16

No and most likely not.

[#248245] Timeout errors using Net::HTTP on Windows — Toby DiPasquale <toby@...>

Hi all,

12 messages 2007/04/17

[#248255] new — "poison tooth" <fixxie.wits@...>

Im just learning ruby and im stuck the guide im using says

17 messages 2007/04/17

[#248263] how to have a default argument — "shawn bright" <nephish@...>

hello all,

11 messages 2007/04/17

[#248384] ruby scripting on microsoft active directory plus exchange — Pe, Botp <botp@...>

Hi All,

16 messages 2007/04/19
[#248445] Re: ruby scripting on microsoft active directory plus exchange — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...> 2007/04/19

I would recommend looking at Net::LDAP: gem install ruby-net-ldap

[#248463] Re: ruby scripting on microsoft active directory plus exchange — "Ball, Donald A Jr (Library)" <donald.ball@...> 2007/04/19

> I would recommend looking at Net::LDAP: gem install ruby-net-ldap

[#248516] what does this code do ? from libxml schema-test.rb ??? — "aktxyz@..." <aktxyz@...>

At the bottom of the schema-test.rb in the libxml gem, there is this

13 messages 2007/04/20
[#248522] Re: what does this code do ? from libxml schema-test.rb ??? — Reuben Grinberg <reuben.grinberg@...> 2007/04/20

aktxyz@gmail.com wrote:

[#248546] Morse Code (#121) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

32 messages 2007/04/20

[#248629] Tracking down a garbage collection problem — Wincent Colaiuta <win@...>

I'm trying to work out ways to reduce the memory use of one of my

12 messages 2007/04/21

[#248680] GameR 0.2 is out — Wim Vander Schelden <wim.vanderschelden@...>

I've released GameR, a small and simple game development framework for Ruby.

13 messages 2007/04/22

[#248744] Arrow operator with dash instead of equals (->) — Andrew Green <ndrw_grn@...>

Hi, all,

16 messages 2007/04/22
[#248747] Re: Arrow operator with dash instead of equals (->) — Timothy Hunter <TimHunter@...> 2007/04/22

Andrew Green wrote:

[#248750] Re: Arrow operator with dash instead of equals (->) — Andrew Green <ndrw_grn@...> 2007/04/23

> > Is it possible to use -> as a method name in Ruby?

[#248762] Question regarding design of the String Class — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@...>

Was there a reason the string class was implemented with str[i]

21 messages 2007/04/23
[#248774] Re: Question regarding design of the String Class — Daniel Martin <martin@...> 2007/04/23

"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@worldnet.att.net> writes:

[#248777] Ruby Reports 1.0 RC1 (0.10.0) — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...>

== Ruby Reports 1.0, Release Candidate 1 (0.10.0) ==

13 messages 2007/04/23

[#248814] unix zcat with ruby? — music <music@...>

I have to read in many files.

14 messages 2007/04/23

[#248862] ruby and C — "smc smc" <fixxie.wits@...>

Would it be easier to learn ruby if i knew C/C+/C++ or the other way around?

14 messages 2007/04/24

[#248981] file-find 0.1.0 — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>

Hi all,

18 messages 2007/04/24
[#248984] Re: [ANN] file-find 0.1.0 — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...> 2007/04/24

On 4/24/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:

[#248993] Re: [ANN] file-find 0.1.0 — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...> 2007/04/24

On 4/24/07, Leslie Viljoen <leslieviljoen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249027] Using Watir and Ruby2Exe together — Jim Clark <diegoslice@...>

I've been asked to help solve a browser issue that I think Watir and

13 messages 2007/04/25

[#249034] C++ code into Ruby, I need it fast, no time for RTFM — Andrei Ursan <steelheart222@...>

[code]

41 messages 2007/04/25
[#249041] Re: C++ code into Ruby, I need it fast, no time for RTFM — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2007/04/25

[#249043] Re: C++ code into Ruby, I need it fast, no time for RTFM — Andrei Ursan <steelheart222@...> 2007/04/25

> Translate this for me, right now. No, by yesterday. == A time when

[#249044] Re: C++ code into Ruby, I need it fast, no time for RTFM — "David Jones" <tafftoo@...> 2007/04/25

There are still ways to ask for things.

[#249060] Is it possible to make system use bash instead of sh? — Wai Tsang <simotsa@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2007/04/25

[#249076] DHH vs. WHY style — Trans <transfire@...>

Like to know others general opinions on having a comprehensive library

35 messages 2007/04/25

[#249226] 10 millisecond delay/callback — Earle Clubb <eclubb@...>

I need to perform a task every 10ms. I've been using

21 messages 2007/04/26
[#249228] Re: 10 millisecond delay/callback — khaines@... 2007/04/26

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Earle Clubb wrote:

[#249238] Using Ruby in a Corporate Environment — Steve Molitor <stevemolitor@...>

---------- Forwarded message ----------

10 messages 2007/04/26

[#249268] Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...>

Hi Folks,

24 messages 2007/04/27
[#249334] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Lyle Johnson" <lyle.johnson@...> 2007/04/27

On 4/27/07, Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249338] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Jamey Cribbs" <jcribbs@...> 2007/04/27

Lyle Johnson wrote:

[#249340] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2007/04/27

On 4/27/07, Jamey Cribbs <jcribbs@netpromi.com> wrote:

[#249342] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2007/04/27

[#249343] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2007/04/27

On 4/27/07, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249347] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2007/04/27

[#249269] Output A File w/ Line Numbers? — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...>

I'd like to read a file and output its contents (just to terminal is

18 messages 2007/04/27
[#249414] Re: Output A File w/ Line Numbers? — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/28

On 4/27/07, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249274] string replacement... — Josselin <josselin@...>

I have a string : str = "/proposal/list/31551"

15 messages 2007/04/27

[#249315] Checking Credit Cards (#122) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

65 messages 2007/04/27

[#249430] cyclic array — Josselin <josselin@...>

I would like to print n elements from an Array in a cyclic way.

18 messages 2007/04/28

[#249524] Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Billy Hsu" <ruby.maillist@...>

Hi, I'm CFC

31 messages 2007/04/29
[#249526] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Chris Carter" <cdcarter@...> 2007/04/29

On 4/29/07, Billy Hsu <ruby.maillist@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249664] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/30

On 29.04.2007 16:11, Chris Carter wrote:

[#249667] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/30

On 4/30/07, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#249670] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/30

On 30.04.2007 12:39, Robert Dober wrote:

[#249688] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/30

On 4/30/07, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#249527] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/04/29

Hi --

[#249531] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/29

On 4/29/07, David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#249532] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/04/29

Hi --

[#249587] Class Level Variables — Cory <coryw@...>

Alright, I'm missing some core ruby concept here that I just can't

23 messages 2007/04/30
[#249589] Re: Class Level Variables — Ari Brown <ari@...> 2007/04/30

[#249603] sorting by rand? — seebs@... (Peter Seebach)

Browsing something at a bookstore recently, I saw an example of

22 messages 2007/04/30

[#249689] RoR how does scaffold work? — anansi <kazaam@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2007/04/30

[#249691] ruby and true — aidy.lewis@...

Hi,

16 messages 2007/04/30

[#249759] relocatable ruby distribution — "fkc_email-news @ yahoo dot com" <fkchang2000@...>

Hi All:

11 messages 2007/04/30

Re: Question regarding design of the String Class

From: "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@...>
Date: 2007-04-23 22:30:07 UTC
List: ruby-talk #248855
Robert Dober wrote:
> On 4/23/07, Michael W. Ryder <_mwryder@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Brian Candler wrote:
>> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 02:40:09AM +0900, Michael W. Ryder wrote:
>> >> I guess my point was that str[i] behaves totally different from all 
>> the
>> >> other implementations of [].  All of the others return a string.
>> >
>> > You clearly know a lot of languages then :-)
>> >
>>
>> I probably should have phrased that differently.  What I meant that all
>> of the other implementations of [] in Ruby for the String class return a
>> string, only str[i] returns a number.
> I copy that, you have made a somehow valid point, that has been
> discussed before and do not like either  that "ab"[0] == ?a (instead
> of "a"). But it is not a clearcut error either.
> 
> The overloading (in human terms not computer science terms) of [] to
> get elements and substrings of a string might not be the best choice
> either. And that there is String#each_byte and not
> String#each_character might hurt too.
> But there are other tools around that make up for it.
>>
>> > As pointed out before, in C, str[i] is an expression whose value is an
>> > integer for the character at position i, exactly as in Ruby.
>> >
>> > In Perl, it doesn't do what you expect either:
>> >
>> > $ perl -e '$a = "abcde"; print $a[2], "\n";'
>> >
>> > $
>> >
>> > (what this actually does is extract an element from the array @a, 
>> which I
>> > have not initialised, and is completely unrelated to the scalar $a)
>> >
>> >> In Business Basic or C if I want the numeric value of a character in a
>> >> string I specify that.  Likewise if I want to copy a string from an
>> >> arbitrary position I don't have to specify an ending character like
>> >> Ruby.  I just find s = t[i, -1] to be much harder to understand in a
>> >> quick read then s = t[i].  Others may not have this problem.
>> >
> I guess that the influence of *Basic and C* to Ruby are minimal. In
> order to convince a rubyist that other features might be nice because
> they are present in language X, I'd rather chose X from Python, Lisp,
> Smalltalk, Self, IO or Lua (and I am leaving out some by laziness and
> ignorance)

I am not worried about the influence of other languages or trying to 
make Ruby like language X, I am trying to understand the logic behind 
some of the choices.  It makes it hard when at first glance it looks 
familiar, but then you get bitten because of the differences that are 
not readily apparent.

>> > Personally I would be *very* surprised if str[i] returned all the 
>> characters
>> > from 'i' to the end of the string. But then I don't program in Business
>> > Basic.
>> >
>> Business Basic has been doing this for over the 25 years I have been
>> programming in it.  For example if I enter: A$="abcdefg" and then say:
>> Print A$(3) it prints cdefg.  Like Ruby, if I enter B$=A$(3,3) B$
>> contains cde.  Other than the beginning number of the string they act
>> the same.
>>
>> > I do program in C though. If I wanted the string from position i to 
>> the end
>> > of the string, I would write str + i, or possibly &str[i]
>> >
>>
>> But you do not have to provide a length or ending position for the copy
>> which was part of my confusion.  I specify a starting position and the
>> language copies the rest of the string.  In Ruby just providing a
>> starting position gives me a numeric value.
> Well if you want to get the maximum from Ruby I'd advice you, sorry if
> this is sounding blunt, to take a break from too much comparing with
> other languages.
> Paradigm shifts are tough, after that break you might still think that
> "ab"[0] == ?a is
> not a good thing, but I am sure that you will be able to bring your
> point across much better.
> 
> Sorry if I became lecturing, just thought it might help, after all ;).
> I remember very well when I was lectured about duck typing, first I
> was angry, and I said lots of stupid things (they were very clever in
> my Ada world of course), but when I let go and looked at things as
> they were I really shifted into the paradigm of Ruby, and yes I still
> get bitten by duck typing and no I do not introduce type checking, I
> just write better tests.
>

I program for a living in Business Basic so I can't take a break from 
the language to learn Ruby.  Instead, I am trying to convert functions 
from Business Basic to Ruby and may consider then trying to convert some 
of my programs to Ruby.  I have already completed one of the function 
conversions and may post the results later.  Part of the reason for the 
conversion would be the ability to "upgrade" the programs to use things 
like browsers and SQL instead of the glass tty and flat files built into 
Business Basic.


> Welcome to Ruby.
> 
> Cheers
> Robert
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