[#246252] How to use standard library? — Jamal Soueidan <jkhaledsoueidan@...>

Hello,

18 messages 2007/04/01
[#246253] Re: How to use standard library? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2007/04/01

Alle domenica 1 aprile 2007, Jamal Soueidan ha scritto:

[#246263] Re: How to use standard library? — "Yamal Soueidan" <jkhaledsoueidan@...> 2007/04/01

Well, where does it identify its module and not a class?

[#246267] Re: How to use standard library? — Stefano Crocco <stefano.crocco@...> 2007/04/01

Alle domenica 1 aprile 2007, Yamal Soueidan ha scritto:

[#246368] Map Or Collect Redux — "RubyTalk@..." <rubytalk@...>

Looking in the old archives of ruby-talk I found a thread in 2005

11 messages 2007/04/02

[#246378] Test::Unit Reports — aidy.lewis@...

Hi,

23 messages 2007/04/02

[#246464] Last iteration condition — "Mike" <michaelst@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2007/04/03

[#246590] Everything is a object? — Jamal Soueidan <jkhaledsoueidan@...>

Hello,

40 messages 2007/04/03
[#246598] Re: Everything is a object? — Jamal Soueidan <jkhaledsoueidan@...> 2007/04/04

Jamal Soueidan wrote:

[#246600] Re: Everything is a object? — Gary Wright <gwtmp01@...> 2007/04/04

[#246601] Re: Everything is a object? — Jamal Soueidan <jkhaledsoueidan@...> 2007/04/04

Gary Wright wrote:

[#246614] fast XML parser, other than libxml — Peter Szinek <peter@...>

Hello all,

20 messages 2007/04/04
[#246615] Re: fast XML parser, other than libxml — "Keith Fahlgren" <keith@...> 2007/04/04

On 4/3/07, Peter Szinek <peter@rubyrailways.com> wrote:

[#246626] Re: fast XML parser, other than libxml — Peter Szinek <peter@...> 2007/04/04

Keith Fahlgren wrote:

[#246629] Re: fast XML parser, other than libxml — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/04

On 04.04.2007 10:53, Peter Szinek wrote:

[#246630] Re: fast XML parser, other than libxml — Peter Szinek <peter@...> 2007/04/04

Robert Klemme wrote:

[#246669] Problem Extracting Array Values — Dustin Anderson <rubyforum@...>

Hi All,

16 messages 2007/04/04
[#246672] Re: Problem Extracting Array Values — "ChrisH" <chris.hulan@...> 2007/04/04

On Apr 4, 10:02 am, Dustin Anderson <rubyfo...@dustinanderson.com>

[#246673] Re: Problem Extracting Array Values — "Ryan Leavengood" <leavengood@...> 2007/04/04

On 4/4/07, ChrisH <chris.hulan@gmail.com> wrote:

[#246679] Re: Problem Extracting Array Values — Dustin Anderson <rubyforum@...> 2007/04/04

[#246702] nil? and non-existent objects — "François Montel" <zerohalo@...>

Why is it that the nil? method can sometimes be called on an object that

12 messages 2007/04/04

[#246830] Redefining initialize while staying -w clean — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...>

Hi all,

11 messages 2007/04/05

[#246929] Getting to 100 (#119) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

57 messages 2007/04/06
[#247191] Re: Getting to 100 (#119) — "Carl Porth" <badcarl@...> 2007/04/08

here is my first pass:

[#247192] Re: Getting to 100 (#119) — "Carl Porth" <badcarl@...> 2007/04/08

After going back and reading the current solutions, I like Ken Bloom's

[#247215] Re: Getting to 100 (#119) — "Marcel Ward" <wardies@...> 2007/04/09

On 08/04/07, Carl Porth <badcarl@gmail.com> wrote:

[#246946] A few beginners questions — wannaberor <amldcc@...>

Guys,

15 messages 2007/04/06

[#247059] Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@...>

Hello everyone,

40 messages 2007/04/07
[#247078] Re: Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — Michael Brooks <michael.brooks@...> 2007/04/07

SonOfLilit wrote:

[#247097] Re: Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — "ChrisKaelin" <ck.stonedragon@...> 2007/04/07

I totally agree, what people say about a single-entry-point: ruby-

[#247099] Re: Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — James Britt <james.britt@...> 2007/04/07

ChrisKaelin wrote:

[#247100] Re: Question to all you newbies (others welcome) — "Jeff" <cohen.jeff@...> 2007/04/07

On Apr 7, 4:30 pm, James Britt <james.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247131] Minimum ruby installation. — "bino_oetomo" <bino@...> 2007/04/08

Dear Experts.

[#247151] Re: Minimum ruby installation. — Alex Young <alex@...> 2007/04/08

bino_oetomo wrote:

[#247062] rb_yield(), break, and C extensions — "Noah Easterly" <noah.easterly@...>

So, I'm working on a C extension.

11 messages 2007/04/07

[#247088] Trying to GET google with socket....problem — Hey You <r3madi@...>

Well I don't know why the socket can't connect to Google. Here is my

17 messages 2007/04/07

[#247155] code blocks and methods — andy <eps@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2007/04/08

[#247299] Infinate Loop - Please Advise — "Merrie" <merries@...>

This program produces an infinate loop. I am learning from Learn to =

13 messages 2007/04/09

[#247338] How to Write a Spelling Corrector — Brian Adkins <lojicdotcomNOSPAM@...>

Peter Norvig wrote a simple spelling corrector in 20 lines of Python 2.5,

12 messages 2007/04/10

[#247391] Slow ruby regexes — Emmanuel <emmanuel@...>

Hello i've been reading this article, wich has a few benchmarks

47 messages 2007/04/10
[#247402] Re: Slow ruby regexes — SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@...> 2007/04/10

Read wikipedia on Regex. It explains better than I can why one is used

[#247403] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/10

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:59:29 +0900, SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247409] Re: Slow ruby regexes — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/10

On 4/10/07, MenTaLguY <mental@rydia.net> wrote:

[#247410] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/10

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:56:28 +0900, "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247455] Re: Slow ruby regexes — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/11

On 4/10/07, MenTaLguY <mental@rydia.net> wrote:

[#247456] Re: Slow ruby regexes — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/11

oops wrong button here :(

[#247499] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/11

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:53:26 +0900, "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247518] Re: Slow ruby regexes — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/11

On 4/11/07, MenTaLguY <mental@rydia.net> wrote:

[#247541] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/11

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:27:04 +0900, "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247608] Re: Slow ruby regexes — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/12

On 11.04.2007 22:51, MenTaLguY wrote:

[#247683] Re: Slow ruby regexes — MenTaLguY <mental@...> 2007/04/12

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:10:06 +0900, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#247770] Re: Slow ruby regexes — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/13

On 12.04.2007 18:31, MenTaLguY wrote:

[#247398] ClothRed (HTML to Textile) — Phillip Gawlowski <cmdjackryan@...>

I'm pleased to announce, that I've begun working on a small library to

16 messages 2007/04/10
[#247526] Re: [ANN] ClothRed (HTML to Textile) — "Victor \"Zverok\" Shepelev" <vshepelev@...> 2007/04/11

From: Phillip Gawlowski [mailto:cmdjackryan@googlemail.com]

[#247436] NameError: uninitialized constant Date::ABBR_MONTHS — Jigar Gosar <jigar.gosar@...>

DATE::ABBR_MONTHS exists in this doc here.

13 messages 2007/04/11

[#247471] How come this doesn't work? — Hey You <r3madi@...>

require 'socket'

13 messages 2007/04/11

[#247622] What is your favourite IDE? — "ChrisKaelin" <ck.stonedragon@...>

I prefer using eclipse for it's freedom, ruby and svn plugins etc. But

95 messages 2007/04/12
[#247681] Re: What is your favourite IDE? — Todd Werth <twerth@...> 2007/04/12

ChrisKaelin wrote:

[#247980] Re: IDEs, syntactic vs. semantic highlighting, etc. — Tim X <timx@...> 2007/04/15

Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> writes:

[#247737] Re: What is your favourite IDE? — Vlad Ciubotariu <vcciubot@...> 2007/04/12

Is anyone using Activestate's Kodomo? I know activestate is a player in

[#247757] Re: What is your favourite IDE? — "M. Edward (Ed) Borasky" <znmeb@...> 2007/04/13

Vlad Ciubotariu wrote:

[#247913] Re: What is your favourite IDE? Eclipse DLTK! — Tim X <timx@...> 2007/04/14

Todd Werth <twerth@infinitered.com> writes:

[#247636] Re: What is your favourite IDE? — "Alexey Kalmykov" <akalmykov@...>

15 messages 2007/04/12

[#247725] SNMP agent library? — "Marcus Bristav" <marcus.bristav@...>

I need to write an SNMP agent (raise traps and expose MIBs). Is there

15 messages 2007/04/12
[#247741] Re: SNMP agent library? — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2007/04/13

On 4/12/07, Marcus Bristav <marcus.bristav@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247790] Re: SNMP agent library? — "Marcus Bristav" <marcus.bristav@...> 2007/04/13

Hi Francis,

[#247809] Re: SNMP agent library? — "Francis Cianfrocca" <garbagecat10@...> 2007/04/13

On 4/13/07, Marcus Bristav <marcus.bristav@gmail.com> wrote:

[#247760] Idiom wanted (now hiring!) — Jonathan <terhorst@...>

Is there a cool way to do this without calling the function twice?:

28 messages 2007/04/13
[#247767] Re: Idiom wanted (now hiring!) — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2007/04/13

Jonathan wrote:

[#247783] Re: Idiom wanted (now hiring!) — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/13

On 4/13/07, Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@path.berkeley.edu> wrote:

[#247805] Magic Fingers (#120) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

14 messages 2007/04/13

[#247974] executing a system command and stopping it after a specified duration? — Robert La Ferla <robertlaferla@...>

I'd like to run a system command and then stop it after specified

9 messages 2007/04/15

[#248026] translate Perl diamond operator to Ruby — Chad Perrin <perrin@...>

Over the years, I've found the following to be an excellent way to whip

13 messages 2007/04/15

[#248151] factorial in ruby — "Trans" <transfire@...>

Is factorial defined anywhere in Ruby's core or standard library. If

21 messages 2007/04/16
[#248154] Re: factorial in ruby — "Jason Roelofs" <jameskilton@...> 2007/04/16

No and most likely not.

[#248245] Timeout errors using Net::HTTP on Windows — Toby DiPasquale <toby@...>

Hi all,

12 messages 2007/04/17

[#248255] new — "poison tooth" <fixxie.wits@...>

Im just learning ruby and im stuck the guide im using says

17 messages 2007/04/17

[#248263] how to have a default argument — "shawn bright" <nephish@...>

hello all,

11 messages 2007/04/17

[#248384] ruby scripting on microsoft active directory plus exchange — Pe, Botp <botp@...>

Hi All,

16 messages 2007/04/19
[#248445] Re: ruby scripting on microsoft active directory plus exchange — "Glen Holcomb" <damnbigman@...> 2007/04/19

I would recommend looking at Net::LDAP: gem install ruby-net-ldap

[#248463] Re: ruby scripting on microsoft active directory plus exchange — "Ball, Donald A Jr (Library)" <donald.ball@...> 2007/04/19

> I would recommend looking at Net::LDAP: gem install ruby-net-ldap

[#248516] what does this code do ? from libxml schema-test.rb ??? — "aktxyz@..." <aktxyz@...>

At the bottom of the schema-test.rb in the libxml gem, there is this

13 messages 2007/04/20
[#248522] Re: what does this code do ? from libxml schema-test.rb ??? — Reuben Grinberg <reuben.grinberg@...> 2007/04/20

aktxyz@gmail.com wrote:

[#248546] Morse Code (#121) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

32 messages 2007/04/20

[#248629] Tracking down a garbage collection problem — Wincent Colaiuta <win@...>

I'm trying to work out ways to reduce the memory use of one of my

12 messages 2007/04/21

[#248680] GameR 0.2 is out — Wim Vander Schelden <wim.vanderschelden@...>

I've released GameR, a small and simple game development framework for Ruby.

13 messages 2007/04/22

[#248744] Arrow operator with dash instead of equals (->) — Andrew Green <ndrw_grn@...>

Hi, all,

16 messages 2007/04/22
[#248747] Re: Arrow operator with dash instead of equals (->) — Timothy Hunter <TimHunter@...> 2007/04/22

Andrew Green wrote:

[#248750] Re: Arrow operator with dash instead of equals (->) — Andrew Green <ndrw_grn@...> 2007/04/23

> > Is it possible to use -> as a method name in Ruby?

[#248762] Question regarding design of the String Class — "Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@...>

Was there a reason the string class was implemented with str[i]

21 messages 2007/04/23
[#248774] Re: Question regarding design of the String Class — Daniel Martin <martin@...> 2007/04/23

"Michael W. Ryder" <_mwryder@worldnet.att.net> writes:

[#248777] Ruby Reports 1.0 RC1 (0.10.0) — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...>

== Ruby Reports 1.0, Release Candidate 1 (0.10.0) ==

13 messages 2007/04/23

[#248814] unix zcat with ruby? — music <music@...>

I have to read in many files.

14 messages 2007/04/23

[#248862] ruby and C — "smc smc" <fixxie.wits@...>

Would it be easier to learn ruby if i knew C/C+/C++ or the other way around?

14 messages 2007/04/24

[#248981] file-find 0.1.0 — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>

Hi all,

18 messages 2007/04/24
[#248984] Re: [ANN] file-find 0.1.0 — "Leslie Viljoen" <leslieviljoen@...> 2007/04/24

On 4/24/07, Daniel Berger <djberg96@gmail.com> wrote:

[#248993] Re: [ANN] file-find 0.1.0 — "Daniel Berger" <djberg96@...> 2007/04/24

On 4/24/07, Leslie Viljoen <leslieviljoen@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249027] Using Watir and Ruby2Exe together — Jim Clark <diegoslice@...>

I've been asked to help solve a browser issue that I think Watir and

13 messages 2007/04/25

[#249034] C++ code into Ruby, I need it fast, no time for RTFM — Andrei Ursan <steelheart222@...>

[code]

41 messages 2007/04/25
[#249041] Re: C++ code into Ruby, I need it fast, no time for RTFM — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2007/04/25

[#249043] Re: C++ code into Ruby, I need it fast, no time for RTFM — Andrei Ursan <steelheart222@...> 2007/04/25

> Translate this for me, right now. No, by yesterday. == A time when

[#249044] Re: C++ code into Ruby, I need it fast, no time for RTFM — "David Jones" <tafftoo@...> 2007/04/25

There are still ways to ask for things.

[#249060] Is it possible to make system use bash instead of sh? — Wai Tsang <simotsa@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2007/04/25

[#249076] DHH vs. WHY style — Trans <transfire@...>

Like to know others general opinions on having a comprehensive library

35 messages 2007/04/25

[#249226] 10 millisecond delay/callback — Earle Clubb <eclubb@...>

I need to perform a task every 10ms. I've been using

21 messages 2007/04/26
[#249228] Re: 10 millisecond delay/callback — khaines@... 2007/04/26

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Earle Clubb wrote:

[#249238] Using Ruby in a Corporate Environment — Steve Molitor <stevemolitor@...>

---------- Forwarded message ----------

10 messages 2007/04/26

[#249268] Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...>

Hi Folks,

24 messages 2007/04/27
[#249334] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Lyle Johnson" <lyle.johnson@...> 2007/04/27

On 4/27/07, Gregory Brown <gregory.t.brown@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249338] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Jamey Cribbs" <jcribbs@...> 2007/04/27

Lyle Johnson wrote:

[#249340] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2007/04/27

On 4/27/07, Jamey Cribbs <jcribbs@netpromi.com> wrote:

[#249342] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2007/04/27

[#249343] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — "Gregory Brown" <gregory.t.brown@...> 2007/04/27

On 4/27/07, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249347] Re: Looking for thoughts and opinions on Ruport, and reporting in Ruby in general. — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...> 2007/04/27

[#249269] Output A File w/ Line Numbers? — John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...>

I'd like to read a file and output its contents (just to terminal is

18 messages 2007/04/27
[#249414] Re: Output A File w/ Line Numbers? — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/28

On 4/27/07, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249274] string replacement... — Josselin <josselin@...>

I have a string : str = "/proposal/list/31551"

15 messages 2007/04/27

[#249315] Checking Credit Cards (#122) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

65 messages 2007/04/27

[#249430] cyclic array — Josselin <josselin@...>

I would like to print n elements from an Array in a cyclic way.

18 messages 2007/04/28

[#249524] Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Billy Hsu" <ruby.maillist@...>

Hi, I'm CFC

31 messages 2007/04/29
[#249526] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Chris Carter" <cdcarter@...> 2007/04/29

On 4/29/07, Billy Hsu <ruby.maillist@gmail.com> wrote:

[#249664] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/30

On 29.04.2007 16:11, Chris Carter wrote:

[#249667] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/30

On 4/30/07, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#249670] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — Robert Klemme <shortcutter@...> 2007/04/30

On 30.04.2007 12:39, Robert Dober wrote:

[#249688] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/30

On 4/30/07, Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> wrote:

[#249527] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/04/29

Hi --

[#249531] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "Robert Dober" <robert.dober@...> 2007/04/29

On 4/29/07, David A. Black <dblack@wobblini.net> wrote:

[#249532] Re: Array.which_long? ( I coded an extension for Array ) — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2007/04/29

Hi --

[#249587] Class Level Variables — Cory <coryw@...>

Alright, I'm missing some core ruby concept here that I just can't

23 messages 2007/04/30
[#249589] Re: Class Level Variables — Ari Brown <ari@...> 2007/04/30

[#249603] sorting by rand? — seebs@... (Peter Seebach)

Browsing something at a bookstore recently, I saw an example of

22 messages 2007/04/30

[#249689] RoR how does scaffold work? — anansi <kazaam@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2007/04/30

[#249691] ruby and true — aidy.lewis@...

Hi,

16 messages 2007/04/30

[#249759] relocatable ruby distribution — "fkc_email-news @ yahoo dot com" <fkchang2000@...>

Hi All:

11 messages 2007/04/30

Re: IDEs, syntactic vs. semantic highlighting, etc.

From: Tim X <timx@...>
Date: 2007-04-16 22:05:05 UTC
List: ruby-talk #248181
"Rick DeNatale" <rick.denatale@gmail.com> writes:

> On 4/14/07, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 01:27:28AM +0900, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>
>> > But what I'd *really* like is a language and an implementation of that
>> > language that *was* an IDE! The closest thing to that I've ever seen is
>> > the intricate entwining of Lisp and Emacs, and that, in a kind of
>> > linear, one-dimensional, "auditory" way, is the core concept. But expand
>> > that -- data structures other than the linked list, two-dimensional and
>> > three-dimensional diagrams, color, stereo sound, animation. And, of
>> > course, it needs to be open source. :)
>>
>> Isn't that what Smalltalk does?  It combines the language and the IDE in
>> one convenient package.
>
> Most, but maybe not all, Smalltalk implementations  combine the
> language, the run-time and the development environment.  In typical
> Smalltalk implementation:
>
> * The compiler is written in Smalltalk, methods are compiled to
> objects (usually instances of a class called something like
> CompiledMethod which contains a reference to the compiled byte codes,
> and information about the bindings of references to local variables
> and the like.
>
> * The tools run in the same execution environment as the application.
> The information needed by the compiler and other development tools is
> kept by Smalltalk objects which model the code (Classes, Metaclasses,
> Behavior, CompiledMethods). The IDE can do things like get a list of
> all implementors of a particular method selector, or all the methods
> which invoke that selector by querying the run-time environment.  The
> source code is located through these objects as well.  One of the
> things which newbies to Smalltalk find strange is that there are no
> explicitly edited source files. In the original Smalltalk-80
> implementation, source code was kept in a changes-log file and methods
> had a pointer into that file so that they could find their source.
> Often this is supplanted by a shared source database which provides
> SVN like function.  EnvyDeveloper which worked with a variety of
> Smalltalk implementations including (Smalltalk/V, VisualWorks (later
> merged), and IBM Smalltalk) was the most popular implementation of
> this.
>
> * Another thing which some find strange is that the run-time state is
> persistent and is saved as an image.  You can terminate Smalltalk,
> restart it and you're right back where you were, complete with any
> existing instances of objects, suspended threads (Smalltalk calls them
> Processes) etc.
>
> * The reflection capabilities in Smalltalk are more powerful than in
> Ruby, this enables quite a few of the tools.  Smalltalk programs can
> reflect not only on the class definitions and other semi-static
> properties, but can also reflect on and manipulate the run-time
> execution state.  As an example of the difference, in Ruby, although
> one can access a representation of the current process stack frame
> using Kernel#caller, this representation is textual and only really
> describes which methods are on the stack.   In Smalltalk the process
> stack can be examined in detail, and manipulated (usually by the
> debugger, which like all of the other Smalltalk development tools is
> written in Smalltalk). In the Smalltalk debugger you can do things
> like change the values variables, or even change the source of a
> method and recompile it, then resume execution from the point of
> change. For efficiency the VM only reifies stack information as
> objects when it is needed, but the key is that a rich set of
> information about the run-time is available as objects.
>
> This approach has it's plusses and minuses, but for many it's the
> sine-qua-non of what constitutes an INTEGRATED Development
> Environment.
> -- 

I've never done smalltalk, but a lot of what you have written reminds me of
some of the lisp environments I've used. 

One of the things I grew to love in lisp and have often missed in other
languages is conditional restarts and error trapping. It is one of the few
languages I've used that really gives you the ability to step back, make
changes and recover rather than simply 'trap and report'.

Getting back to Ruby, I have to say, the more I use this language the more I
like it. I got into a bit of perl's OO some years back, which at the time, I
liked in preference to using Java. However, I really do think ruby has gotten
the whole OO stuff nailed, particularly from the perspective of a scripting
language. Despite my contributions to threads on IDEs etc, I have to say that
using ruby and emacs is for me a nice environment. I can see potential for an
even more powerful integrated emacs+ruby environment and once I get a better
appreciation of the language, may even try and see about using my emacs
knowledge/experience to contribute to the ruby mode for emacs. 

Tim

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tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au

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