From: "S. Robert James" Date: 2007-03-30T09:40:04+09:00 Subject: Re: On Enterprise Ruby I'm glad to hear that, Charlie. My major point is about libraries: I think JRuby will open up a lot of the industrial strength libraries to Ruby. My concern, though, is that JRuby will not focus on helping Rubyists do Ruby better, but rather help Rubyists talk with Java apps. I'm glad to hear that your goals are larger than that. I think the best - perhaps only - way to make something like this happen is to make interfaces, which are fully in the Ruby spirit and style - that harness Java's libs underneath. Ruby style interfaces to SOAP, to XML processing, to network protocols, to message passing, etc. - with the elegance and succintness of Ruby, but powered by Java's industrial strength mettle. What do you say? On Mar 29, 5:00 am, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > S. Robert James wrote: > > Perhaps JRuby will address these and library issues, but I think JRuby > > is targeted more towards using Ruby to talk to Java, not enhancing > > Ruby in its own right. Perhaps over time, as more people adopt Ruby, > > all of these issues will be addressed more... > > Au contraire...JRuby aims to be the best Ruby possible on the JVM. If > that ultimately means we solve some issues (threading, performance, > unicode, scaling) before/better than the C implementation, so be it. But > it will still be Ruby, and we intend to run all the same apps unmodified > (or as close to unmodified as possible). > > - Charlie