From: Mark T Date: 2007-03-28T15:11:07+09:00 Subject: Re: Object/Relational Mapping is the Vietnam of Computer Sci martinphillips@ladybridge.com of LadyBridge..... wrote back to me on the topic of using OpenQM with Ruby. OpenQM is a multi-field database based on Pick/Universe/Everyone... "OpenQM uses the post-relational model in which the First Law of Normalisation is discarded, allowing multiple values such as a list of products in an order to be stored together." He said if Ruby can do cgi-bin, then it can access the OpenQM DB. Intriguing. On this page there is a clue to access techniques: http://www.openqm.com/id57.htm Q: When you put this against node-xml access, does xml imply it also discards the First Law? A: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/11/13/normalizing.html Markt