From: Benjohn Barnes <benjohn@...>
Date: 2007-03-28T08:04:47+09:00
Subject: Re: Object/Relational Mapping is the Vietnam of Computer Science


On 20 Mar 2007, at 18:43, Austin Ziegler wrote:

>>
>> Anyone have any comments / experience with "associative" databases  
>> like:
>>     http://www.associativesolutions.com/relavance.php
>>     http://www.lazysoft.com/technology_sentences.htm
>
> I'd never heard of these. The marketing speak sounds like hooey, and
> Fabian Pascal quite agrees. Fabian Pascal is, if you will, the Richard
> Dawkins of databases. He knows what the hell he's talking about, but
> he's an abrasive man who often hurts his own points by his
> abrasiveness. Here's three articles:
>
>   http://www.dbdebunk.com/page/page/622443.htm
>   http://www.dbdebunk.com/page/page/622368.htm
>   http://www.dbdebunk.com/page/page/3278346.htm
>
> I suspect that these are to be heavily avoided in favour of properly
> educating oneself about relational data models.

Mr. Pascal is really very abrasive!

I've read those three articles now. In general, I'd agree with his  
venting - certainly his criticism of people writing about problems in  
the relation model / confusing logical with physical, and idiot  
marketing speak.

 From the little look I've had, this associative stuff sounds  
interesting though. I suspect that associative's marketers have gone  
out and talked rubbish, and this has obscured any value that might be  
in it.

So I'll go and read more about it now.

Cheers,
	Benj