[#24183] "yield called out of block" — Mark Slagell <ms@...>

Having just talked with a nuby in email, I believe this error message

27 messages 2001/11/02
[#24243] Re: "yield called out of block" — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/11/03

Hi,

[#24223] Too much eval evil? (tell me why I shouldn't do this) — gandy@... (Thomas Gandy)

I've been doodling with Ruby (experimenting with it in order to figure

13 messages 2001/11/02

[#24335] Joys of eval — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...>

A few weeks ago I posted a request for help with regexp, split, scan, et.

30 messages 2001/11/04
[#24337] Re: Joys of eval — Sean Middleditch <elanthis@...> 2001/11/04

On Sun, 2001-11-04 at 13:29, Albert Wagner wrote:

[#24338] Re: Joys of eval — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...> 2001/11/04

On Sunday 04 November 2001 12:43 pm, you wrote:

[#24339] Re: Joys of eval — Sean Middleditch <elanthis@...> 2001/11/04

On Sun, 2001-11-04 at 14:01, Albert Wagner wrote:

[#24340] Re: Joys of eval — Todd Gillespie <toddg@...> 2001/11/04

On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Sean Middleditch wrote:

[#24351] Re: Joys of eval — Sean Middleditch <elanthis@...> 2001/11/04

On Sun, 2001-11-04 at 14:31, Todd Gillespie wrote:

[#24466] Why is ruby slow (compared to perl) — "Aqil Azmi" <aazmi@...>

Hello,

29 messages 2001/11/06
[#24688] Re: Why is ruby slow (compared to perl) — Sean Russell <ser@...> 2001/11/08

Niko Schwarz wrote:

[#24694] Re: Why is ruby slow (compared to perl) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/11/08

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Sean Russell wrote:

[#24511] kill rdtool? — Stefan Nobis <stefan@...>

Hi.

51 messages 2001/11/07
[#24530] RE: kill rdtool? — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/11/07

[#24534] Re: kill rdtool? — Pierre-Charles David <Pierre-Charles.David@...> 2001/11/07

Mark Hahn wrote:

[#24535] Re: kill rdtool? — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/11/07

[#24536] Re: kill rdtool? — Eric Lee Green <eric@...> 2001/11/07

On Wednesday 07 November 2001 09:34 am, Mark Hahn wrote:

[#24538] Re: kill rdtool? — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/11/07

[#24540] Re: kill rdtool? — Eric Lee Green <eric@...> 2001/11/07

On Wednesday 07 November 2001 10:04 am, Mark Hahn wrote:

[#24541] Re: kill rdtool? — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/11/07

[#24542] Re: kill rdtool? — Eric Lee Green <eric@...> 2001/11/07

On Wednesday 07 November 2001 10:14 am, Mark Hahn wrote:

[#24666] I've ported the python nntplib class to Ruby. I will be adding comments to it soon. Here it is for public commentary and criticism — jheard <jheard@...>

require 'socket'

9 messages 2001/11/08

[#24698] ruby and webservices — Markus Jais <info@...>

hello

46 messages 2001/11/08
[#24715] Re: ruby and webservices — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2001/11/09

In article <9setsu$1378d4$1@ID-75083.news.dfncis.de>,

[#24730] Re: ruby and webservices — "Rich Kilmer" <rich@...> 2001/11/09

Actually...its me.

[#24801] Re: XML libraries (Re: Re: ruby and webservices) — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2001/11/09

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#24861] Re: XML libraries (Re: Re: ruby and webservices) — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...> 2001/11/11

Hi,

[#24877] Re: XML libraries (Re: Re: ruby and webservices) — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...> 2001/11/11

On 01/11/11 2:20 AM, "TAKAHASHI Masayoshi" <maki@open-news.com> wrote:

[#24700] Strange behaviour of Array#[] — Michael Neumann <neumann@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2001/11/08

[#24750] BUG: net/telnet.rb gives select invalid argument excepition — Ville Mattila <mulperi@...>

20 messages 2001/11/09

[#24810] Ruby-Tk; feature/bug/misunderstanding? mouse-location during when a key is pressed in the presence of TkMenubutton — Armin Roehrl <armin@...>

Hi,

8 messages 2001/11/09

[#24820] ANN: Triple-R - The Rubicon Results Repository — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

16 messages 2001/11/10

[#24926] XML support in the standard lib — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>

Hi,

128 messages 2001/11/12
[#24928] Re: XML support in the standard lib — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...> 2001/11/12

[#25011] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2001/11/13

PaulC wrote:

[#25014] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2001/11/13

P.S.

[#25023] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...> 2001/11/13

On 01/11/13 9:56 AM, "Tobias Reif" <tobiasreif@pinkjuice.com> wrote:

[#25027] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2001/11/13

Bob Hutchison wrote:

[#25037] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...> 2001/11/13

On 01/11/13 11:21 AM, "Tobias Reif" <tobiasreif@pinkjuice.com> wrote:

[#25018] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — "Nat Pryce" <nat.pryce@...13media.com> 2001/11/13

The DOM is a pretty awkward API to both use and implement. An API based on

[#25126] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — "James Britt (rubydev)" <james@...> 2001/11/14

>

[#25138] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@...> 2001/11/14

On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 20:53, James Britt (rubydev) wrote:

[#25151] Re: XML support in the standard lib; whatexactly? — "James Britt (rubydev)" <james@...> 2001/11/14

[#25202] Re: XML support in the standard lib;whatexactly? — "Nat Pryce" <nat.pryce@...13media.com> 2001/11/14

From: "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@simonstl.com>

[#25231] Re: XML support in the standard lib;whatexactly? — "James Britt (rubydev)" <james@...> 2001/11/15

[#25250] Re: XML support in the standard lib;whatexactly? — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2001/11/15

James Britt (rubydev) wrote:

[#25251] Re: XML support in the standard lib;whatexactly? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/11/15

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Tobias Reif wrote:

[#25020] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/11/13

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Nat Pryce wrote:

[#25059] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Sean Russell <ser@...> 2001/11/13

Robert Feldt wrote:

[#25078] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/11/13

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Sean Russell wrote:

[#25080] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2001/11/13

Hi all XMLers,

[#25102] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/11/13

Hello --

[#25157] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2001/11/14

Dave Thomas wrote:

[#25170] Re: XML support in the standard lib; what exactly? — chad fowler <chadfowler@...> 2001/11/14

[#24948] Refactoring tool for Ruby... — Stephan K舂per <Stephan.Kaemper@...>

Just being curious if someone has worked on a refactoring tool for

12 messages 2001/11/12

[#24955] Teach your kid math w/ruby — pete@... (Peter J. Kernan)

14 messages 2001/11/12

[#24958] Linux Magazine article — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

53 messages 2001/11/12
[#26103] Re: Linux Magazine article — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...> 2001/11/22

[#26116] Re: Linux Magazine article — Jos Backus <josb@...> 2001/11/22

On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 10:20:04AM +0900, Bill Kelly wrote:

[#25029] Set class in Ruby — Yuri Leikind <YuriLeikind@...>

Hello all Ruby coders,

18 messages 2001/11/13

[#25082] exiting blox — Niko Schwarz <niko.schwarz@...>

Hi there,

17 messages 2001/11/13

[#25101] ANN: REXML 1.1a3 — Sean Russell <ser@...>

Hiho,

23 messages 2001/11/13

[#25276] GC question — Tony Smith <tony@...>

Hi there!

20 messages 2001/11/15
[#25777] Ruby in windows — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/11/18

[#25788] RE: Ruby in windows — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/11/18

This is what I get from command line:

[#25291] Re: ANN: REXML 1.1a3 — Ben Schumacher <BSchumacher@...>

Tobias Reif wrote:

24 messages 2001/11/15

[#25383] Arrays, iterators, and map/collect — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

Hello all...

12 messages 2001/11/16

[#25432] Why not xmlparser? (was: Re: XML support in the standard lib;whatexactly?) — "Christian Boos" <cboos@...>

32 messages 2001/11/16
[#25678] RE: Why not xmlparser? (was: Re: XML support in the standard lib;whatexactly?) — "James Britt (rubydev)" <james@...> 2001/11/16

> I may have missed something, but the original question that started the

[#25722] RE: Why not xmlparser? (was: Re: XML support in the standard lib;whatexactly?) — Sean Russell <ser@...> 2001/11/17

James Britt (rubydev) wrote:

[#25732] Re: Why not xmlparser? (was: Re: XML support in the standard lib;whatexactly?) — "James Britt (rubydev)" <james@...> 2001/11/17

>

[#25850] Re: Why not xmlparser? (was: Re: XML support in the standard lib;whatexactly?) — Sean Russell <ser@...> 2001/11/19

James Britt (rubydev) wrote:

[#25689] Would like feedback on script to remove unused import statements in java — "Thomas R. Corbin" <tc@...>

I use this script all the time when developing in java, it really helps a

20 messages 2001/11/17
[#25829] Re: Would like feedback on script to remove unused import statements in java — "Ralph Mason" <ralph.mason@...> 2001/11/19

Is there any documentation on this anywhere?

[#25830] Re: Would like feedback on script to remove unused import statements in java — ts <decoux@...> 2001/11/19

>>>>> "R" == Ralph Mason <ralph.mason@telogis.com> writes:

[#25916] Why the appended '\n' in IO.readlines — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/11/20

Hi

[#25753] Misunderstanding or bug? — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

18 messages 2001/11/18

[#25808] KDE or GNOME curiosity question... — Robert Hicks <bobhicks@...>

I was just curious which desktop (of the two mentioned in the subject)

80 messages 2001/11/19
[#26360] Re: [OT] Re: KDE or GNOME curiosity question... — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...> 2001/11/24

[#26374] Re: [OT] Re: KDE or GNOME curiosity question... — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/11/24

[#26518] Re: [OT] Re: KDE or GNOME curiosity question... — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2001/11/26

> How hard would it be to have an option to use reference counting in a

[#26544] Re: [OT] Re: KDE or GNOME curiosity question... — "mark hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/11/26

> Circular references will cause the object to stay around indefinitely

[#26746] Re: [OT] Re: KDE or GNOME curiosity question... — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/11/28

Hi,

[#26825] RE: Ref Counting (was KDE or GNOME curiosity question...) — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/11/28

[#26827] Re: Ref Counting (was KDE or GNOME curiosity question...) — "Matt Armstrong" <matt+dated+1007407366.0f6d51@...> 2001/11/28

"Mark Hahn" <mchahn@facelink.com> writes:

[#25861] A bug invoking a method with send? — chr_news@... (chr_news@...)

Hi,

12 messages 2001/11/19

[#25907] String#== : Why not error with different type? — furufuru@... (Ryo Furue)

Hi there,

17 messages 2001/11/20

[#25954] a quick question — Tobias DiPasquale <anany@...>

Hi all,

21 messages 2001/11/20
[#25959] PocketPC — "Chad Fowler" <chadfowler@...> 2001/11/20

Has anyone gotten Ruby running (perhaps in some limited form) on the

[#26006] R: Re: Hello World considered harmful — Alessandro Caruso <a.caruso@...>

I thought the main reason people are moving towards Ruby instead of keep

19 messages 2001/11/21
[#26023] Re: R: Re: Hello World considered harmful — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2001/11/21

Alessandro Caruso <a.caruso@creditonline.it> writes:

[#26029] Re: R: Re: Hello World considered harmful — Erik B虍fors <erik@...> 2001/11/21

On Wed, 2001-11-21 at 15:31, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#26126] Conformance Test of XML Parsers in Ruby(20011122) — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...>

Hi all,

27 messages 2001/11/22
[#26128] Re: Conformance Test of XML Parsers in Ruby(20011122) — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2001/11/22

TAKAHASHI Masayoshi wrote:

[#26134] Re: Conformance Test of XML Parsers in Ruby(20011122) — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/11/22

Hello --

[#26145] Re: Conformance Test of XML Parsers in Ruby(20011122) — Kevin Smith <kevinbsmith@...> 2001/11/22

--- David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net

[#26181] Re: NQXML Conformance (was Re: Conformance Test of XML Parsers in Ruby(20011122)) — martin@... (Martin v. Loewis) 2001/11/22

Jim Menard <jimm@io.com> writes:

[#26141] Passing class names to constructors. — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>

If I want to create a variable number of objects, all of

14 messages 2001/11/22

[#26205] Book "Rub in 21 days" Table of contents online — Markus Jais <mjais@...>

hi

17 messages 2001/11/23

[#26214] generating and serving SVG — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>

Hi,

39 messages 2001/11/23
[#26215] Re: generating and serving SVG — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/11/23

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Tobias Reif wrote:

[#26270] Table: Ruby versus Smalltalk, Objective-C, C++, Java; — Armin Roehrl <armin@...>

Hi,

28 messages 2001/11/24

[#26293] The results are in... — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

28 messages 2001/11/24
[#26365] Re: The results are in... — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...> 2001/11/24

<snip>

[#26377] Re: The results are in... — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/11/24

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Albert Wagner wrote:

[#26389] Re: The results are in... — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...> 2001/11/25

On Saturday 24 November 2001 05:03 pm, you wrote:

[#26391] Re: The results are in... — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/11/25

On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Albert Wagner wrote:

[#26337] Re: Table: Ruby versus Smalltalk, Objective-C, C++, Java; — "john%johnknight.com@..." <john%johnknight.com@...>

16 messages 2001/11/24

[#26362] Selector Namespaces: A Standard Feature for Smalltalk? — "David Simmons" <david.simmons@...>

Here is an incentive for classic Smalltalk evolution...

26 messages 2001/11/24

[#26537] Ruby vs. Python: Decisions, Decisions — "Bob Calco" <rcalco@...>

Everyone:

32 messages 2001/11/26

[#26557] Re: Ruby vs. Python: Decisions, Decisions — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

21 messages 2001/11/26

[#26651] Vote in the current poll! — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

26 messages 2001/11/27
[#26685] Re: Vote in the current poll! — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2001/11/27

In article <Pine.GSO.4.21.0111271419390.9896-100000@godzilla.ce.chalmers.se>,

[#26702] Re: Vote in the current poll! — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/11/27

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Phil Tomson wrote:

[#26752] Anyone know of a Regexp pattern random string generator? — "Ross Shaw" <rshaw1961@...>

I'm looking for some Ruby that given a Regexp pattern will generate a random

10 messages 2001/11/28

[#26782] RE: overload possible? — Wyss Clemens <WYS@...>

No, UNLESS you ask Guy Decoux (ts) to give you his *extension*

31 messages 2001/11/28
[#26791] Re: overload possible? — ts <decoux@...> 2001/11/28

>>>>> "W" == Wyss Clemens <WYS@helbling.ch> writes:

[#26792] Re: overload possible? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/11/28

On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, ts wrote:

[#26847] Re: overload possible? — "Harry Ohlsen" <harryo@...> 2001/11/28

Here's a slightly better version, which also fixes the problem that

[#26860] Re: overload possible? — nobu.nokada@... 2001/11/29

At Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:13:36 +0900,

[#26861] Re: overload possible? — "Rich Kilmer" <rich@...> 2001/11/29

excellent idea...how about this refactoring...

[#26894] short article draft for review — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>

Hi,

26 messages 2001/11/29
[#26898] Re: short article draft for review — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/11/29

Hi --

[#26899] Re: short article draft for review — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2001/11/29

David,

[#26902] Re: short article draft for review — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/11/29

Hi --

[#26973] thoughts on virtual base classes, interfaces — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

16 messages 2001/11/29

[#26976] first class functions in Ruby — "MikkelFJ" <mikkelj-anti-spam@...1.dknet.dk>

In the thread on language design, I mentioned a wish for functions as first

15 messages 2001/11/29

[#26984] Can someone explain TupleSpaces? — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

I looked at the examples that came with drb, but I'm still not quite

16 messages 2001/11/29

[#27054] Using Enumerable — Peter Hickman <peter@...>

Im trying to write my own each method for a 'sort of' range class that

19 messages 2001/11/30
[#27057] Re: Using Enumerable — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/11/30

Hello --

[#27060] Re: Using Enumerable — Peter Hickman <peter@...> 2001/11/30

Thanks to all who replied, like all ruby it was alot simpler than I

[#27066] Musing — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

32 messages 2001/11/30
[#27079] RE: Musing — "Rich Kilmer" <rich@...> 2001/11/30

Do it Dude!

[ruby-talk:24549] RE: can GPL feature be a Ruby standard? (was: kill rdtool?)

From: "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...>
Date: 2001-11-07 18:07:07 UTC
List: ruby-talk #24549
From the GPL faq:

"By contrast, pipes, sockets and command-line arguments are communication
mechanisms normally used between two separate programs. So when they are
used for communication, the modules normally are separate programs. But if
the semantics of the communication are intimate enough, exchanging complex
internal data structures, that too could be a basis to consider the two
parts as combined into a larger program".
   ...
"However, in many cases you can distribute the GPL-covered software
alongside your proprietary system. To do this validly, you must make sure
that the free and non-free programs communicate at arms length, that they
are not combined in a way that would make them effectively a single
program".

Your method of "hitting the "Backup" button on the GUI spawn(ing) off a
seperate process that in turn called the GPL'ed "tapeinfo" program", could
be argued to be "make them effectively a single program".  I'm not saying it
IS a violation of the GPL, just that it could be argued to be.  What is
"intimate enough" anyway?

In the commercial world, the possibility of legal action is enough to be a
show-stopper for a technology.

Anyone can ship whatever they want and take a risk, but making something
that is GPL part of a standard is forcing everyone to take that risk.

--- Slightly off topic ---

From "Why you shouldn't use the Library GPL for your next library" on GNU
website:

... "We free software developers should support one another. By releasing
libraries that are limited to free software only, we can help each other's
free software packages outdo the proprietary alternatives. The whole free
software movement will have more popularity, because free software as a
whole will stack up better against the competition".

This clearly states their attitude of "us versus them".  GNU's intent is to
hamper commercial software to the benefit of free software.


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Lee Green [mailto:eric@badtux.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:29 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: [ruby-talk:24542] Re: kill rdtool?


On Wednesday 07 November 2001 10:14 am, Mark Hahn wrote:
> I don't see how you could integrate (the I in IDE) the doc system in an
IDE
> without calling the doc system.

Same way that I integrated 'mtx' into BRU-Pro -- just call it as a
stand-alone program from your Ruby script, the same way you might call 'awk'
or 'sed' (both of which are GPL on Linux). BRU-Pro "looked" to the user as
if
it were a single integrated backup program, but actually it was a ton of
Python scripts and standalone Open Source programs being called as
individual
stand-alone programs from a GUI "shell" that presented an integrated user
environment. The user never saw that behind the scenes, "mtx" was being
called from the Python code to load and unload tapes and query the jukebox
for its contents. The user never saw that, behind the scenes, hitting the
"Backup" button on the GUI spawned off a seperate process that in turn
called
the GPL'ed "tapeinfo" program to detirmine whether there was a tape in the
drive (since there is no cross-platform tape ioctl for detirmining such) and
then called "mtx" to load a tape into the drive if there wasn't one there.
All he saw was that the tape moved into the drive, and a status window
popped
up telling him how many files had been backed up so far.

Really, you need to use some imagination here. I've "integrated" GPL'ed
software into many of the commercial products that I've worked on, by simply
extracting out the GPL'ed stuff into a seperate stand-alone program. Note
that the GPL pretty much requires that the seperate stand-alone program be
usable by itself without your IDE or product (much as "mtx" is), but that
should not be much of a problem, and it doesn't even represent a competitive
disadvantage in most cases -- as far as I know, no other backup software
company uses "mtx" as their tape loader driver, they all rely upon their own
proprietary drivers because that's what they have an investment in and
because they have an institutional bias against Open Source software in the
first place.

> -----Original Message-----
> Why? As far as I know, there's no requirement for the doxygen system to be
> linked into your application. It's a stand-alone product. I've distributed
> GPL'ed software with commercial products before. See, e.g.,
> http://mtx.sourceforge.net, which serves as the tape jukebox driver for
> EST/TAPIS Group's BRU-Pro product.

--
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