From: "Peña, Botp" <botp@...>
Date: 2007-03-23T10:20:50+09:00
Subject: Re: Object/Relational Mapping is the Vietnam of Computer Sci

From: Chad Perrin [mailto:perrin@apotheon.com] 
# On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 08:10:59PM +0900, Pe�a, Botp wrote:
# > data is _just_ data until one makes *use of it. So until 
# someone makes use of it, it is still useless..  Isn't it the 
# reason why there are rubyists all around? Is the ruby 
# language data? ;)
# > 
# 
# Of course Ruby is just data.  That's true of every 
# programming language.

if language is data, then from whence did it came from? 
Surely, it must have been, like any other data,

1 found, thru the process of searching or
2 created, or
3 copied, or
(4 a combi of the 3 above)

all those 3 are processes. they require intelligence. data is useless without them.

Can processing create it's own pristine data?

# Lisp isn't special in this regard -- it's special, in that it doesn't
# try to pretend there's a difference between source code and data,
# whereas (most) other languages do.

(thanks. lisp is very cool indeed, too.)

btw, one last question: let's take the google example, if you're to decide of the fate of google and were given only one choice which would you prefer, 
1 the total lost of data, and start from gathering again
2 the total lost of code and coders, and restart hiring and coding again
?

cheers :)
kind regards -botp