From: "Peña, Botp" Date: 2007-03-22T20:10:59+09:00 Subject: Re: Object/Relational Mapping is the Vietnam of Computer Sci From: Austin Ziegler [mailto:halostatue@gmail.com] : # Well, it is (the ultimately starting point), although you may need a # process to collect it in the first place. However, it is, as # you said, a cyclical loop. data is it. data can be King (as you said) and can be a pauper. data has been around even before we existed. The raw data fr stoneage is basically same as today ...but the processing of data has 1 made civilization, consider usa, europe, china, dubai, etc 2 made industrializaton, commerce, agri, you name it 3 made leisure, sports, arts, etc 4 made each one of us unique, consider AZiegler, Ara, YMatz, DBlack, etc.. data is _just_ data until one makes *use of it. So until someone makes use of it, it is still useless.. Isn't it the reason why there are rubyists all around? Is the ruby language data? ;) kind regards -botp