From: Ryan Davis Date: 2007-03-22T09:29:02+09:00 Subject: Re: Object/Relational Mapping is the Vietnam of Computer Science On Mar 21, 2007, at 15:43 , Austin Ziegler wrote: > I don't particularly like SQL databases. I just won't pretend -- like > some people, which may or may not include yourself; I don't know since > you've never made a statement on it, certainly not as stupid as > "relational databases are evil" -- that object databases or xml > databases or anything else like that is a good thing. I actually love OODBs, and having worked for a major vendor in that space, would consider myself knowledgeable in that arena. > Ryan, that's really rich. I strongly suggest you look over your own > contributions and harsh stances before you try to pull this particular > stunt. I choose my battles carefully, and I don't tend to talk about > stuff in harsh terms that I don't have extensive experience with. I > know you do the same, but you'd really best look at how you're > perceived before trying to tell me that my work is unapproachable for > doing exactly what you do. I hear you and for the most part agree. We're polarizers. Checking my last 200 mail going to ruby-talk (to sept 2006), I don't remember (I'm not about to re-read all of them) a single one of them having a directed personal attack. The harshest I've gotten on the list in the past year or two centered around one of my favorite gems being poisoned, and it still didn't have a personal attack in it. I think the second harshest I've gotten centers around writing image_science because rmagick/imagemagick sucks (and well, it does). I try keep my polarized opinions on my blog, where they belong. I think the main difference is that I know when to stop. I doubt there is a single thread in the past 4 years I've participated in with more than say... 5 emails from me (that's a total guess). I see at least 10 such threads for you in your last 200 (going back to Oct 2006--so pretty close to the same posting rate) There'd probably be some value in aggregating posts by author and then subject. So this isn't entirely a pot calling a kettle black.