From: Robert Dober Date: 2007-03-19T22:32:41+09:00 Subject: Re: Why SVN? On 3/19/07, Brian Mitchell wrote: > On 3/19/07, Robert Dober wrote: > > On 3/14/07, Brian Mitchell wrote: > > > On 3/14/07, Austin Ziegler wrote: > > > > On 3/12/07, Trans wrote: > > > > > Should I be using SVN rather than Darcs or Git? > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > Darcs and Git are distributed version control systems without much > > > > proven technology behind them, and are painfully Unix-oriented. > > > > > > > > > So I'm wondering, what's so special about SVN as opposed to the other > > > > > choices? Is it because SVN is more like CVS than the other choices? > > > > > The fact that SVN isn't distributed I would think would work against > > > > > it (though I hear SVK is supposed to deal with that). Darcs is written > > > > > in Haskell, and from the word on the street a lot of Ruby folk seem to > > > > > like Haskell. Also, Git was written by Linus Torvalds, which is about > > > > > as good as credentials can get. > > > > > > > > Quality in kernel management doesn't mean his version control system > > > > is any good. I'm not saying it's bad -- at all -- but the credentials > > > > don't transfer there. > > > > > > > > Distributed systems fit very few development models. > > > > > > > > -austin > > > > > > I can't resist replying to this troll. I call FUD on the "distributed > > > version control systems without much proven technology behind them" > > > claim until we get details. I'd really like to hear why you think you > > > have a winner just because something is different. It's obvious you > > > think you have a great reason to feel strongly about using Subversion. > > > I think it is only fair that you share why if you plan on telling > > > people such absolutes. So please, enlighten me. > > > > > > Brian. > > > > > > > > Austin a TROLL??? Well maybe he has adopted a troll like language but > > I believe that you should see the context of all his contributions. > > > > I defend him because I dislike him a lot and I find his Unix hatery > > quite boring. > > BUT he is a very valuable contributor. > > > > So consider twice putting him into your kill file. > > > > And yes of course Austin you have the right to holler at me, I was > > quite harsh... > > I know very well who he is. I don't really care who he is if he makes > a large and absolute claim w/o backing it up. No special cases for > contributors either. I don't think the acts are mutually exclusive. > This is one of the most beautiful things about the Ruby community. The > fact that some people even question Matz sometimes about his thoughts > and proposals is a sign of good health. No blind worship to be found > here please. > > Now given that, I wasn't about to kill-file him. I don't mind just > archiving or deleting email I don't like. Kill-filing seems to be a > bit far for most cases (Ilias might have pushed that line though ;-) > ). He did an excellent job replying to my original concerns and made > his claim fair. > > While I didn't really agree with what he would do in my cases, I found > it much more logical once he put his position into the picture. It > rather enriched the conversation in my opinion but w/o that, it really > put a dull spin on things leaving a void of an answer just sitting > there. > > A lot of people have my respect and thanks. Austin is one of them. I > will still try to play a fair game here still. Holler at me and call > me a troll if I don't. Why would I do that? It is rather me who is wrong, I actually thought that you are a newbie, what a memory I have, and I thought it might be a good occasion to say what I think and warn someone not to lose vital information. So I just made a fool out of myself, great. I can only apologize for the misjudgment of the situation... I do that quite often though lately :( > > Thanks, > Brian. > > Robert -- You see things; and you say Why? But I dream things that never were; and I say Why not? -- George Bernard Shaw