From: John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger@...>
Date: 2007-03-10T09:39:50+09:00
Subject: Re: [ANN] Rassmalog 3.1.0 - the mutant

JavaScript's return as Ajax is often little more than Flash without  
Flash.
Both are often little more than annoying and useless.

On Mar 10, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Josef 'Jupp' Schugt wrote:

> * Robert Wagner, 09.03.2007 20:47:
>> oh i like offline generated pages. seems nice. regarding the
>> search problem: consider integrating a javascript based solution.
>
> I do not know about you but when *I* browse the Web I either use a
> browser that has no Javascript capability at all or with Javascript
> deactivated unless I explicitly switch it on. It is annoying enough
> that Web dysdesigners are so sure that using a flash-enabled
> webbrowser means that Javascript is activated that they not even
> inform the user that a Javascript script is used to detect if one has
> a flash-enabled browser.
>
> That the created pages are usable with any browser was an important
> reason for my choice to use rassmalog. I do not oppose to include a
> Javascript engine but the integration than should be done in a clever
> way. My suggestion is as follows:
>
> 1. Keep the current search
> 2. Add a search using javascript
> 3. Make use of <noscript> in this manner:
>    a) If Javascript is enabled display
>       "Search (Javascript enhanced)"
>    b) If Javascript is disabled display
>       "Search (no Javascript, deprecate)"
> 4. Add a small paragraph about why to enable Javascript to the latter
>    search.
> 5. On the same page add a piece of Javascript that replaces the page
>    by the Javascript version of the search.
>
> A site using Javascript is good if and only if the necessities still
> work with disabled Javascript. Bells, whistles and eyecandy can rely
> on Javascript.
>
> Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
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