From: SonOfLilit Date: 2007-02-18T21:16:40+09:00 Subject: Re: Oppinions on RCR for dup on immutable classes Say, why not just define Object#mutable? and solve the issue of not knowing if dup is possible or not? Sure, it only works to tell you about one possible reason it's not, but it seems like a good workaround, far better than, say, duping just to check. Aur Saraf