From: SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@...>
Date: 2007-02-13T07:49:10+09:00
Subject: Re: Getting my sister to learn programming

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Any advantage to Euphoria over Ruby?

Having pass-by-value and copy-on-write seems like the only interesting bit
to me.

Is there any reason at all for a Rubyist to learn it?

Aur Saraf

On 2/13/07, Martin DeMello <martindemello@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hard to say. I speculate that it's because there are more attractive
> languages in the various ecological niches it inhabits - ruby and
> python are more unixy when you want a scripting language, common lisp
> is more 'batteries included' when you want a lisp, ocaml is faster
> when you want a multiparadigm language. But when you want a teaching
> language, it's hard to beat scheme, and nigh impossible to beat the
> DrScheme environment. Then the question is not whether it'll scale up
> to be the *best* real-world application platform you can find, but
> merely whether it *can* scale up from toy programs to real-world
> applications, and the answer to that I'd say is "yes".
>
> Also, I just found out that Euphoria (http://www.rapideuphoria.com/)
> has gone open source, which suddenly makes it a very attractive first
> language indeed. Check it out - I know I'm going to start recommending
> it to beginners once I've written a couple of small programs to
> convince myself it's a pleasant language. The only caveat seems to be
> the lack of lexical closures; I'm torn over whether that makes a
> difference in a first language.
>
> martin
>
> On 2/13/07, SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Then, out of curiosity, why don't people USE it for real world apps?
> >
> > Aur Saraf
> >
> > On 2/12/07, Martin DeMello <martindemello@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2/13/07, SonOfLilit <sonoflilit@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Again - if she'd want to build a real world application  in scheme,
> > > COULD
> > > > she?
> > >
> > > With PLT scheme, almost certainly. It ships with a very nice
> > > complement of libraries.
> > >
> > > martin
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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