From: Samantha Date: 2007-02-11T13:08:41+09:00 Subject: Re: Linux OS ------=_Part_47598_9540026.1171166918069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 2/10/07, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > > Samantha wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Egads. Compiling KDE does take a very long time. One thing that > >> seems to > > help is having the 'kdeenablefinal' USE flag in your /etc/make.conf > > > > When I emerged KDE, I did it before I went to sleep. That's just not > > something ya wanna wait around for. :) > The issue isn't so much KDE or Gentoo's need to recompile most > everything. It's the ghastly performance of VMware on jobs with a lot of > processor, memory and disk usage, which is what gcc is. One thing that > will make a big difference is that you absolutely positively *must* > pre-allocate your virtual disks. It's pretty much unusable if you don't. > > When I was in the development stage, I had a separate virtual disk for > "ccache", another one for "/usr/portage/packages" and a third for > "/usr/portage/distfiles". That way, I had binary packages and didn't > have to do any more compiles than necessary. It also keeps "/usr" from > getting too big. Once the machine is "staged", I just unmount those > disks, turn off the compiler caching and the automatic binary package > building. :) > > Still, I gave up on it -- it was just a lot of waiting around relative > to Gentoo on a real machine. Here in Portland you can pick up perfectly > good refurbished P3s with a decent hard drive and enough RAM to run a > Debian or Gentoo or Fedora desktop for less than some of the restaurants > around here charge for a small steak dinner. :) There's little need to > devote *part* of a machine to a "learning server" using VMware when you > can get something real. As far as I'm concerned, VMware Workstation or > the free VMware Server have only one practical use case -- as a way of > running a *small* Linux workstation inside a Windows workstation. (Or > vice versa if you work in a Linux shop but need occasional Windows). > > > I have two systems setup. One is a P3 500 with 768MB of RAM, that runs dual boot with ZenWalk Linux and Windows XP. Honestly, the most use that system gets is when I'm gaming and want to be able to surf the web, IM, etc. My other system (that I'm on now) is a Gentoo box that also does the dual boot thing with Windows XP. I can't get myself to take the plunge and wipe off Windows, even though I only boot up into it about once every few weeks. I play EverQuest, and I found myself playing less and less the more I used Linux. I got hooked up with Cedega and once I went from an ATI video card to an Nvidia, I was able to play EQ in Linux, quite nicely. So, I boot into Windows less and less. I just feel like I have a lot more at my fingertips with using Linux than I do with Windows. Since I'm getting more and more into learning to program, Linux seems to be a much more natural environment. Also, I like having the 'power' of the command line, which I do have to some extent in Windows, but not as much as I do in Linux. As far as KDE and compiling go, I can't imagine how it would run on a VMWare environment. It's slow enough to compile when you've got a 2.93Mhz box and 1GB of RAM... I tried Gentoo at my last job on one of my toybox P3's and it proved to be too slow for my lack of patience. :) I had ArchLinux at work, and that's why I chose Zenwalk at home for my smaller box... Zenwalk seems to have a lot of dev tools prepackaged. Ah, I <3 Open Source. G'nite! -- Samantha http://www.babygeek.org/ "Beware when the great God lets loose a thinker on this planet. Then all things are at risk." --Ralph Waldo Emerson ------=_Part_47598_9540026.1171166918069--