From: gwtmp01@... Date: 2007-02-05T13:44:52+09:00 Subject: rSpec and behavior driven development questions The rSpec tutorial (http://rspec.rubyforge.org/tutorials/stack_03.html) shows a new spec as: context "A stack with one item" do specify "should return top when you send it 'top'" do end end This empty context and empty spec 'passes', i.e. there are no failures to report. I don't pretend to be a TDD or BDD guru at all but in TDD documentation I've often seen the suggestion that a newly written test (i.e., a test for a feature or behavior that hasn't been implemented yet) should fail. You then implement the feature and know you have done so when the test passes. Two questions for any BDD or rSpec gurus: 1) Why does the tutorial suggest a two step process of writing an empty spec, testing, and then going back and adding expectations, and finally testing again? Perhaps this is just because it is a tutorial? 2) Why aren't specifications with no expectations flagged as 'failures' by the rSpec test runner 'spec'? I've already been burned by the second situation where I put code in the specification but didn't actually call one of the expectation methods. I thought my implementation was matching the spec but in fact my spec had no expectations. It was impossible for the implementation to not meet the spec. Gary Wright