From: Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net>
Date: 2007-02-01T08:15:20+09:00
Subject: Re: [ANN] tinderbox 1.0.0 Released

On Jan 31, 2007, at 13:48, Tim Pease wrote:
> On 1/31/07, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:
>> On Jan 31, 2007, at 03:10, Bil Kleb wrote:
>> > Eric Hodel wrote:
>> >> http://seattlerb.rubyforge.org/tinderbox
>> >> Tinderbox tests projects and tries to make them break by running
>> >> them on as
>> >> many different platforms as possible.
>> >
>> > Five things:
>> >
>> >  1) Thank you; A most excellent contribution!
>>
>> Its the most depressing Ruby project I've ever written.
>
> OK, I'm curious about why this was so depressing.  Care to explain?
>
> Frankly, I think it is wonderful, and I'm incredibly grateful for its
> existence.  The only depressing thing is how little green there is in
> the overall pie chart view :(

Exactly this, too little green.

>> >  5) Probably been reported before and not related
>> >     to Tinderbox, but why doesn't Rubygems understand
>> >     repeated dependencies?
>>
>> The Install is set for an overhaul in RubyGems 0.9.2.  It takes a
>> recursive approach to installing dependencies, so may have these
>> kinds of issues.
>
> I now understand why you and Ryan were so adamant about having Hoe
> included as a dependency in people's gems.  Makes sense from the
> perspective of firebrigade and tinderbox.

Tinderbox does a best-effort, but some gems fail tests even when run  
with testrb.