From: gwtmp01@... Date: 2007-01-21T02:06:17+09:00 Subject: Re: Minor Change Proposal for Classes 'Object' and 'Method' On Jan 20, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Wolfgang N�dasi-Donner wrote: > "Method#origin" returns the object_id of the class where the method > belongs too. Thats clear for me. No. the return value isn't the object_id (a Fixnum). It is a reference to the class/module itself. Same idea with Kernel#origin This is the same pattern as with Kernel#class: a = Hash.new a.object_id # a Fixnum a.class # reference to Hash, i.e. the class itself b = a.class.new # a newly created instance of Hash m = Hash.method('invert') # an instance of Method m.origin # a reference to Hash h = m.origin.new # another instance of Hash is created Gary Wright