From: Rich Kilmer <rich@...>
Date: 2001-10-26T06:19:59+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:23355] Re: GUI / was [ANN] RubyInRubyParser 0.1-pre-alpha

I wrote a sophisticated lightweight component framework on Java (before Swing) that was very fast.  Of course, writing it in a "higher level" language adds overhead, but not as much overhead as bad design ;-)  If you could have low-level primitives written natively and layer higher level constructs with Ruby, I think you could build a very responsive UI.

-Rich

> -----Original Message-----
> From: markus liedl [mailto:markus.lado@gmx.de]
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:23 PM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: [ruby-talk:23350] Re: GUI / was [ANN] RubyInRubyParser
> 0.1-pre-alpha
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> > having a native window with a canvas which Ruby draws on using 
> the BitBlt 
> > operation.  From there we can think about a GUI toolkit like 
> Squeak's, and
> > other things like that.
> 
> matju, and experiences with Java Swing will tell you that this solution is
> not fast, and will never be. I was surprised, but Swings slowness does not
> depend on the hardware it runs one, it's just slow. (I have 
> impressions from
> using Swing on a k6-2 350,  P3 650, athlon 1.4)
> 
> matju's ideas say: get compatibility by the X11 protocol ( which 
> may not be
> what windows-guys like).
> 
> It's waste of time to copy Java Swing for Ruby.
> 
> Surely, it's a nice occassion for you to learn how a certain chip on your
> graphic card is doing BitBlts, but for serious work, let it do this chip.
> 
> markus
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