From: Devin Mullins Date: 2007-01-02T12:41:10+09:00 Subject: Re: What should i start off with The names for 'real' programs varies, but I think you'll generally get by with a term such as 'windowed applications.' Terms such as 'thick' and 'GUI' are also used, but could probably lead to some ambiguity. To get you started: http://wiki.rubygarden.org/Ruby/page/show/ComparingGuiToolkits/TakeTwo (Note it's 2 years old, so apply salt as necessary.) Though it'd help to know what about GTK and Tk you disliked. Devin