From: James Britt <james.britt@...>
Date: 2006-12-23T04:08:20+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby's Trac Alternative

Rob Sanheim wrote:
> On 12/22/06, Martin DeMello <martindemello@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/22/06, Bil Kleb <Bil.Kleb@nasa.gov> wrote:
>> > Trans wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I think there is a tendency to overestimate tools like Trac.
>> >
>> > Indeed, as the http://agilemanifesto.org says,
>> >
>> >   Individuals and interactions over processes and tools
>> >
>> > but for a team of 12 under a posse of project managers,
>> > Trac is a necessary evil.  And when you approach tens
>> > of teams and whole organizations worth of project managers,
>> > Trac looks gossamer thin.
>>
>> Personally, our startup (10 people at the moment) has been a lot
>> happier since we moved from Trac to Bugzilla + Mediawiki. I can't
>> remember the specifics, but Trac simply lacked some features our QA
>> lead was used to from Bugzilla, and it was too much of a pain to try
>> and see if we could find a third party plugin that implemented them.
>>
>> On the other hand, Trac was very quick and easy to set up, and got us
>> off the ground with minimum effort. I wouldn't have wanted to start
>> off using Bugzilla.
>>
>> martin
> 
> We are using Trac right now (4 developers, ~10 biz people), and its
> working well so far.  The only thing I miss is having a way to attach
> estimates to tasks, whether it be "points" in the xp sense or just
> hours.  I know it can be done with custom fields in Trac, but just
> haven't looked into the details.  The SVN integration is very nice.

Time tracking can be added with a patch.  I don't have the details handy 
  (I've rebuilt my server but not gotten around to that part of the Trac 
stuff), but when I had it installed it was very handy.  Google around 
for Trac+TimeTracking or something.

I used it to devise project estimates and track code velocity.  Quite 
nice, especially how it integrate with the roadmap view.



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James Britt

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