From: Jason Mayer Date: 2006-12-21T09:24:26+09:00 Subject: Re: [OT] where have all the experienced users gone? ------=_Part_22053_31516287.1166660633894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 12/20/06, Geoff wrote: > > On 2006-12-19, Eric Hodel wrote: > > On Dec 18, 2006, at 18:50, Trans wrote: > > > >> seems like there's been a steady drop off in experienced ruby users on > >> the list. is it me or has there really been some sort of migration > >> away? > > > > In the back-channels I've heard the following reasons for why long- > > time readers of ruby-talk cut back: > > > > a) signal:noise ratio too low. > > b) belligerent newbies. > > > > I've been reading quite a bit about these properties of online > communities lately. There's a lot of material worth looking into if you > happen to have a bit of a deeper interest, like: > > Clay Shirky's "A Group is it's Own Worst Enemy" > http://shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html > > Clay Shirky's "Group as User: Flaming and the Design of Social Software" > http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_user.html > > Kathy Sierra's "How to Build a User Community: Part 1" > http://headrush.typepad.com/creating_passionate_users/2006/12/ > how_to_build_a_.html > > Oh, and I'm definitely a Ruby newb myself, but I'm learning, and this > mailing-list/Usenet-newsgroup/forum has proven a fantastic learning > resource. I hope that, one way or another, that continues to be the > case. > > Geoff. > > > What a great set of links. I especially liked this part: And for roughly thirty years, almost any description of mailing lists of any length has mentioned flaming, the tendency of list members to forgo standards of public decorum when attempting to communicate with some ignorant moron whose to stupid to know how too spell and deserves to DIE, die a PAINFUL DEATH, you PINKO SCUMBAG!!! Note the proper usage of to and too ;) ------=_Part_22053_31516287.1166660633894--