From: James Edward Gray II <james@...>
Date: 2006-12-20T07:01:27+09:00
Subject: Re: [OT] where have all the experienced users gone?

On Dec 19, 2006, at 3:56 PM, Tom Werner wrote:

> James Edward Gray II wrote:
>> On Dec 19, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Jeremy McAnally wrote:
>>
>>> This is why many times there will be "xxx-talk" (or "xxx-users") and
>>> "xxx-newbie" lists.  I think perhaps Ruby has reached that "critical
>>> mass" point where this split is in order (even though i'm sure this
>>> has been discussed a number of times and decided against).
>>
>> I was on perl-beginners for years.  When I came to the Ruby  
>> community I asked for the equivalent, but many members felt it  
>> wasn't needed or even desired.  While I think I came around to  
>> their point of view over time, I'm not sure it still holds.
>>
>
> In addition to the newbie/guru split, there is also the possibility  
> of a core/user split. The core list would be for discussions  
> relating to the current and future status of the Ruby language  
> itself, the core libraries, and more theoretical questions. The  
> user list would be for discussions about 3rd party libraries,  
> installation problems, and IDEs. =)
>
> This split has the benefit of not making anyone feel like a newb,  
> while still creating a separate area for hard core Rubyists to talk  
> about serious issues without all the noise.

Ruby has a "core" and a "talk" list today:

http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/community/mailing-lists/

James Edward Gray II