From: Kevin Olemoh <darkintent@...>
Date: 2006-12-19T03:50:54+09:00
Subject: Re: Ruby IDE

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First off has there been any talk about what price range the full version of
ruby in steel is going to fall into?

What happens if you want to develop a gui application using Ruby is one
expected to draw the gui in one program and write the code that makes it
work in another?  I think the integration of form designing tools are a
major strength of an IDE personally.  I tend to do most of my ruby coding on
Linux systems and I prefer Emacs but one major issue I have with Emacs (and
Vim) is that I seem to be spending an exorbitant amount of time trying to
get things like snippet.el, and cedet to actually work; so much so that I
have had to all but give up on getting those things to work if I am going to
get anywhere on the project I am trying to write at the moment.  The net
effect being I end up being far less efficient with respect to typing alone
than I would be if it was easier to get those plugins working or they were
built into emacs already.

The more I try to use Emacs for Ruby the more I find myself wanting to use
an IDE that is at the very least on par with Visual Studio and hopefully
better than Visual Studio if only to focus more on typing the code for my
project and hopefully learning more about ruby in the process rather than
trying to configure the editor component in vain.

Do any of these IDE's mentioned support active line highlighting? (The
current line is say yellow so it stands out against everything else.)

On 12/18/06, Mike Woodhouse <mikewoodhouse@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 4:24 am, <adawo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > "delta11" <delta11NOS...@email.it> wrote in messagenews:
> 39ihh.6144$BR1.3784@tornado.fastwebnet.it...> Try
> >
> > > FreeRIDE
> >
> > >http://freeride.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.plActually, I tried FreeRide,
> but it doesn't seem to work.
> >
> > When I invoke it, it simply flashes onto the screen and
> > instantly vanishes.
> >
> > I appreciate the comments.   Perhaps I should be a little
> > more clear.   Or, perhaps I need to understand Ruby
> > a little better.
> >
> > I do understand that Ruby is interpreted.  The fxri window
> > works fine for console applications.   The problem is that
> > it does not have a save option in the window.
> >
> > I am having some difficulty executing my Ruby
> > script from SciTE.
>
> In SciTE save your scripts with the "rbw" extension, which seems (I
> don't especially understand what's happening - this just works!) to
> help SciTE to capture the output from print statements. Failing that,
> try working in the text editor of your choice - anything that
> understands Ruby syntax should be adequate - and run your scripts from
> a CMD window.
>
> > Python, also interpreted, seems to be easier to use,
> > so far.  I would like to use Ruby since I like the design
> > of the language better than Python.
>
> Interesting. I came to Python second and struggled to come to terms
> with it after Ruby - it always seems less flexible and syntactically
> less rich somehow. Perhaps a Python-oriented IDE might help - I never
> felt that about Ruby.
>
> If you really want an industrial-strength IDE (what were you using for
> Python, I wonder?) then Ruby In Steel for Visual Studio is certainly
> interesting.
>
> > I must be missing something in trying to set up the
> > environment.  It is probably so easy that I am just
> > making it hard because of my experience with so
> > many other languages.
>
> I suspect you've inadvertently managed to get off on the wrong foot! Of
> the dozen or so languages I've found myself working in over the years,
> Ruby is the one I'd most like to spend my days working in. Keep at it!
>
> Mike
>
>
>

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