From: "Michael T. Richter" Date: 2006-12-17T14:43:24+09:00 Subject: Re: does Ruby generate WINDOWS and dialog boxes? --=-rQd3HoYf7k1MfI1baXt6 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-eBN2wlHtx7PkiX8obWks" --=-eBN2wlHtx7PkiX8obWks Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-17-12 at 14:16 +0900, Suraj Kurapati wrote: > > You may want to do some reading before you embarrass yourself further. > Why should I fear embarrassing or otherwise making an ass out of myself?=20 > Such fear would prevent me from learning and keep me ignorant forever. That is both an interesting and a refreshing attitude. However there is a key word you missed above: "further". Being afraid of initial embarrassment is silly. Mistakes are a part of life and ignorance is the default condition. (I'd even, in my more cynical moments, extend "ignorance" to "stupidity" in the previous sentence -- yes, self included.) What you should be afraid of is repeated embarrassment: embarrassment on the same (or similar) points. Being initially embarrassed is a sign of learning. Being further embarrassed on the same topic is a sign of not learning. See what I mean? > > Start with The Rise of Worse is Better > > (http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html). Then pick up a book on > > good UI design. Almost any book written on the topic in, say, the past > > 20 years will open your eyes to just how much effort and thought goes > > into a good user interface, GUI or otherwise. (Here's a hint: the vast > > majority of user interfaces suck bowling balls through garden hoses.) > Thanks for the link and suggestions. Thanks for the refreshing outlook. Usually people who talk about how "tool is great and people who don't like it Just Don't Get It" aren't so open-minded. If you want to take this off-list, I might even be able to direct you to some decent books on HUI design (or at least some web pages with decent information). --=20 Michael T. Richter Email: ttmrichter@gmail.com, mtr1966@hotpop.com MSN: ttmrichter@hotmail.com, mtr1966@hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966@jabber.cn "[Blacks] ... are inferior to the whites in the endowments both of body and mind." --Thomas Jefferson --=-eBN2wlHtx7PkiX8obWks Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2006-17-12 at 14:16 +0900, Suraj Kurapati wrote:

> You may want to do some reading before you emb=
arrass yourself further.

Why should I fear embarrassing or otherwise making =
an ass out of myself? 
Such fear would prevent me from learning and keep m=
e ignorant forever.

That is both an interesting and a refreshing attitude. However there = is a key word you missed above: "further".

Being afraid of initial embarrassment is silly. Mistakes are a part o= f life and ignorance is the default condition. (I'd even, in my more = cynical moments, extend "ignorance" to "stupidity" in t= he previous sentence -- yes, self included.) What you should be afrai= d of is repeated embarrassment: embarrassment on the same (or simila= r) points.

Being initially embarrassed is a sign of learning. Being further emba= rrassed on the same topic is a sign of not learning. See what I mean?=

> Start with The Rise of Worse is Better
> (http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html).  Then pick up =
a book on
> good UI design.  Almost any book written on th=
e topic in, say, the past
> 20 years will open your eyes to just how much =
effort and thought goes
> into a good user interface, GUI or otherwise. =
 (Here's a hint: the vast
> majority of user interfaces suck bowling balls=
 through garden hoses.)

Thanks for the link and suggestions.

Thanks for the refreshing outlook. Usually people who talk about how = "tool <foo> is great and people who don't like it Just Don't Get= It" aren't so open-minded. If you want to take this off-list, I= might even be able to direct you to some decent books on HUI design (or at= least some web pages with decent information).

--
Michael T. Richter
Email: ttmrichter@gmail.com= , mtr1966@hotpop.com
MSN: ttmrichter@hotmail.com= , mtr1966@hotmail.com; YIM: michael_richter_1966; AIM: YanJiahua1966; ICQ: 241960658; Jabber: mtr1966@jabber.cn

"[Blacks] ... are inferior to the whites in the en= dowments both of body and mind." --Thomas Jefferson

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