From: Suraj Kurapati <snk@...>
Date: 2006-12-17T14:16:50+09:00
Subject: Re: does Ruby generate WINDOWS and dialog boxes?

Michael T. Richter wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-17-12 at 10:09 +0900, Suraj Kurapati wrote:
> 
>> Tk is wonderful! It's really simple to manipulate widgets and graphics 
>> in the way you'd expect. IMHO, Tk is the Ruby of GUI toolkits.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm with David here.  Tk isn't the Ruby of GUI toolkits.  But I diverge
> sharply from him after that.  He says it's the PHP of GUI toolkits.  I
> say it's the GWBASIC of them.
> 
> Tk-based GUIs are typically so fscking useless that I'd rather use the
> CLI and ed over an app coded in Tk.
> 
> 
>> I don't know why people hate it so much. They seem to prefer "desktop 
>> integration" and eye-candy instead of clean, functional interfaces. 
>> Sigh. :-(
> 
> 
> You may want to do some reading before you embarrass yourself further.

Why should I fear embarrassing or otherwise making an ass out of myself? 
Such fear would prevent me from learning and keep me ignorant forever.

> Start with The Rise of Worse is Better
> (http://www.jwz.org/doc/worse-is-better.html).  Then pick up a book on
> good UI design.  Almost any book written on the topic in, say, the past
> 20 years will open your eyes to just how much effort and thought goes
> into a good user interface, GUI or otherwise.  (Here's a hint: the vast
> majority of user interfaces suck bowling balls through garden hoses.)

Thanks for the link and suggestions.

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