From: Trans <transfire@...>
Date: 2006-11-25T04:49:36+09:00
Subject: Re: New RCRchive, including new process


dblack@wobblini.net wrote:
> Hi everyone --
>
> The new RCRchive has gone live, at http://www.rcrchive.net.
>
> Please note the following important points:
>
>    * We're starting again, and it's for Ruby 1.9/2.0 requests only.
>    * Yes, I know it's not a design masterpiece :-)  If you're a
>      good designer and want to volunteer to help, let me know.
>    * Comments are no longer entered on-site.  Instead, there will
>      be a mailing list for each RCR.
>    * Once you've signed up, you can:
>        - submit RCRs
>        - vote on RCRs
>        - subscribe to one or more of the comment/discussion mailing
>          lists
>
> More help is available at the site, and I'm happy to field questions
> and problem reports (subject to holiday schedule :-)

What's the difference?  (Besides the fact that everyone's work and
comments on RCR's prior has now been trashed.) The submit form looks
the same. I don't see any mention of the "mailing lists". I even had to
re-register. I don't get it. Rather the rejuvenate the RCR process in
any way, I this is driving the death nail through it. With all this,
who wants to bother anymore?

Personally I think the whole idea of mailing list for _each RCR_ is too
much. No one's going to take the time to join a mailing list for a
single RCR. Very few people ever commented on the RCRs as it was. I
mean really. Is this just some way to shut people up without being
mean? Sort of Honey-pot for wantabe language designers? If Matz and
core team were really interested in ideas for Ruby 2 from the
community, a dedicated mailing list would be the thing to have. A place
where ideas can be hashed out. If bad, they'd die quickly. If
reasonable, Matz or whomever could encourage a formal submission --at
least then one would know their hard RCR work was going to at least get
carefully looked at.

Anyhow that's my 2 cents.

T.

BTW, I submitted an RCR and RCRchive bombed.